I don't know my I've chums who are writers and artists.
Every one writes or paints stuff comercially as well as for their own pleasure.
The gags I'm writing for comission are making more than anything else I've written. I find them completely unfunny, but I enjoy getting paid.
I also enjoy the feeling of doing something unfamiliar well.
Quote: sootyj @ October 23 2008, 10:17 PM BSTFor the reason any artist does, to create something with meaning and expression.
Sure I enjoy some of the stuff I write.
Seems a little juvenile to only write stuff I enjoy.
Then call me seven! 
I'll even do in it crayon.
Strangely, Baby cow accept that.
Quote: sootyj @ October 23 2008, 10:17 PM BSTSeems a little juvenile to only write stuff I enjoy.
Juvenile? For gods sake. I got into writing to create stuff I like, not just to write for writings sake. There is nothing juvenile about writing stuff you enjoy. Sure, all writers at some point get commisioned to write stuff they don't believe in, but I'm not going to go out of my way to do it. Your views on things like this at times baffle me Sooty, I have to say.
Thing about wackiness, familiarity and all that stuff.
So often it covers over real, deep anger and other unsettling stuff.
I dunno I worked with a lot of disturbed people over the years and this kind of dual personality.
It disturbs me.
I appear to be an irrascible, miserable sod. Because I am.
I've not really been following this discussion, but I do agree with the concept of writing both stuff you enjoy and stuff you just want to get paid for.
It would be ideal if you could be proud of both, though.
Quote: RubyMae - Glamourous Snowdrop at Large @ October 23 2008, 10:24 PM BSTThen call me seven!
I'll even do in it crayon.
Strangely, Baby cow accept that.
You sold to Babycow? Which show?
Quote: sootyj @ October 23 2008, 10:23 PM BSTEvery one writes or paints stuff comercially as well as for their own pleasure.
The gags I'm writing for comission are making more than anything else I've written. I find them completely unfunny, but I enjoy getting paid.
Well yes, but it's not why you're a writer; the aim is to create work you actually like, not just to write stuff you think is rubbish, that would be a pretty pointless and grim aim.
Ive I've written and been paid for plenty of stuff I thought nothing of, such as stuff for News Revue, but it's not something I would seek out anymore.
Quote: Matthew Stott @ October 23 2008, 10:26 PM BSTJuvenile? For gods sake. I got into writing to create stuff I like, not just to write for writings sake. There is nothing juvenile about writing stuff you enjoy. Sure, all writers at some point get commisioned to write stuff they don't believe in, but I'm not going to go out of my way to do it. Your views on things like this at times baffle me Sooty, I have to say.
I enjoy both, is that so odd?
I like writing to improve my skills, working to a challenge is fun.
Quote: sootyj @ October 23 2008, 10:27 PM BSTYou sold to Babycow? Which show?
I'm joking!
I'm not that good! I'm still learning. But I used to get some great feedback from Ric Micheal. He was always so mega nice to me and supportive!
Quote: Matthew Stott @ October 23 2008, 10:27 PM BSTWell yes, but it's not why you're a writer; the aim is to create work you actually like, not just to write stuff you think is rubbish, that would be a pretty pointless and grim aim.
Ive I've written and been paid for plenty of stuff I thought nothing of, such as stuff for News Revue, but it's not something I would seek out anymore.
I never knowingly write rubbish. I do get a kick from learning a new skill, even if the end product isn't something I'd enjoy.
Quote: sootyj @ October 23 2008, 10:29 PM BSTI enjoy both, is that so odd?
I like writing to improve my skills, working to a challenge is fun.
Yes, but it's not what you originally said; it wasn't the point of view your post was putting across. Writing to an uncomfortable brief can be stimulating, but the purpose of being a writer is surely primarily to create work you love; not that you're just satisfied with because it fit a brief and you got paid.
People write for many reasons. Some people write purely for fun in their diaries, some write because it gives them a boner.
Me I write lots of stuff, I suspect I am the only person will enjoy them.
Some stuff I write because I like sharing it with my peers.
I loath classical sitcom format, I like endings. I'm actually abit phobic about sitcoms that never end.
But writing to those rules is a neccesity to getting through a lot of doors. As well as having a skill i can share with my peers.
Personally I write to solve world hunger and try to end third world debt but fair enough if some of you do it just for "pleasure".
I suppose some of us have higher values.
Quote: roscoff @ October 23 2008, 10:06 PM BSTAlong similar lines is general over familiarity. You've just been introduced to someone and then they act like they've known you for a thousand years. Arrrgh! F**k off ya creep!
Do what I do: tell them about your deepest most personal thoughts, feelings, ideas and memories. Believe me, it will make anyone who "acts like they've known you for a thousand years" pretend they don't know you when you start telling them about the poo corelation. They will avoid you if you show them the daigram. With pictures.
(Note: The Poo Correlation Explained:
Green Poo: Easy to come out, not pile-inflicting, pain to clean up.
Brown Poo: Fairly easy to come out, risk of piles is slightly higher than the green variety, only a little to clean up.
Black Poo: Hard to get out, more often than not results in piles, hardly any mess.)
On a nicer note: I love writing my own little comedies. I would never show them to anyone else though 
They are my own little pleasures!
A poo classification system. Well this is novel.
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