Quote: PhQnix @ October 22 2008, 12:25 PM BST17.
That's not me in my avatar btw...
Are you a slim young boy?
Reasons to dislike people. Page 5
Quote: chipolata @ October 22 2008, 12:26 PM BSTAre you a slim young boy?
I'm a young boy. Not slim though.
Quote: chipolata @ October 22 2008, 11:43 AM BSTDid Sutcliffe have an air? I always thought he was quite innocuous looking, sort of Geography teacher-esque.
Doesn't Sutcliffe get loads of letters from the kind of twittering self-esteem dragging on the floor women who think their love can 'change him'? And yes, I agree. He did look like a geography teacher.
To add to the list:
Anyone who starts a sentence with the following:
I don't mean to be nasty . . . .or Not being nasty but . . . (cue vile bitchy remark) or Don't take this the wrong way . . .
You know I really love her but . . .(followed by soul crushing comment - this is sadly a female thing)
Women who really dislike other women. Easy to spot. Their voices shoot up fifteen octaves when a man wanders into the room, and they tend to stand around with their feet pointing inwards in a pidgeon toed manner. They also squeak things like: "I'm only little". They also moan about their boyfriends non-stop and if they have any female friends they're always a lot fatter than them.
People who give up smoking, lecture everyone else about it, then get pissed at dinner parties and start poncing fags off everyone while saying: "I don't smoke actually."
Quote: Aaron @ October 22 2008, 12:24 PM BSTIn short, you're blindly ignoring the existence of personal choice, and that it is possible to give consideration before feeling proud of something over which one may not have any direct control, in order to support an already incredibly flimsy argument.
As the wonderful zooo once said: "I do love England lots and lots. It's ace."
I am not ignoring the possibility that proud people consider what they are being proud of before hitting the go button.
But I very much doubt if many do. I doubt if you do.
And Zoo's statement is rather trivial and I suspect if she were French she be saying the same 'bout France, don't you?
Quote: Frankie Rage @ October 22 2008, 12:38 PM BSTI am not ignoring the possibility that proud people consider what they are being proud of before hitting the go button.
But I very much doubt if many do. I doubt if you do.
And Zoo's statement is rather trivial and I suspect if she were French she be saying the same 'bout France, don't you?
and Aaron wouldn't hate them as much 
Quote: Frankie Rage @ October 22 2008, 12:38 PM BSTAnd Zoo's statement is rather trivial and I suspect if she were French she be saying the same 'bout France, don't you?
Oooh there's a philosophical question for the ages. What's stronger? Aaron's hatred of France or his love of zooo?
The more I've seen on the American election, the more I've disliked the Republican Party and it's narrow-minded hatred of gays, liberals, blacks, immigrants, Muslims, Europeans or intellectuals. How on earth has a once great political party allowed itself to be hijacked by myopic hate-mongers?
Quote: chipolata @ October 22 2008, 12:56 PM BSTThe more I've seen on the American election, the more I've disliked the Republican Party and it's narrow-minded hatred of gays, liberals, blacks, immigrants, Muslims, Europeans or intellectuals. How on earth has a once great political party allowed itself to be hijacked by myopic hate-mongers?
Maybe they need a queen?
Quote: chipolata @ October 22 2008, 12:56 PM BSTThe more I've seen on the American election, the more I've disliked the Republican Party and it's narrow-minded hatred of gays, liberals, blacks, immigrants, Muslims, Europeans or intellectuals.
You are greatly misinformed.
Quote: sootyj @ October 22 2008, 10:50 AM BSTWell getting annoyed at people wearing fur, but wearing skin.
Leather is a by-product of the food industry, rather than the animal being slaughtered solely for its skin.
It is okay to wear mink, provided you eat the mink.
Quote: Frankie Rage @ October 22 2008, 12:38 PM BSTI am not ignoring the possibility that proud people consider what they are being proud of before hitting the go button.
But I very much doubt if many do.
Unfortunately you're arguing against something which you can only truly understand if you feel it yourself, and I am nowhere near of a reasonable intellect enough to explain, so it's a little difficult to discuss adequately.
However, I would say that whilst the last point is perhaps true to an extent, and at least consciously, people do consider who they are and what they are, and in learning of their backgrounds have more than enough opportunity for that consderation to come into their consciousness should they find something with which they are uncomfortable. People may be ashamed of their religion when they learn of persecution which may have been wielded in its name, such as the Crusades, whilst Catholic and Protestant persons may be ashamed of their church's conduct towards the other through the early days of the latter's establishment.
Quote: Frankie Rage @ October 22 2008, 12:38 PM BSTI doubt if you do.
Then you are totally incorrect. Anything I'm proud of, I'm proud of by choice. I was never indoctrinated or introduced to anything by my family, and have developed my opinions and feelings without any other input.
In fact, if anything, then I was raised in a Christian family (although not a Bible-bashing weekly church-attending one), but have no strong or particular beliefs. If what you say was indeed the case, then I would be just as observant as everyone else (which again, isn't much admittedly, but moreso than I actually am).
Quote: Frankie Rage @ October 22 2008, 12:38 PM BSTAnd Zoo's statement is rather trivial and I suspect if she were French she be saying the same 'bout France, don't you?
Yes she would, and she has stated that in the past, as have I. It doesn't mean that she's not given consideration to her nationality, and indeed I know that many of the things she likes about England, and makes her proud of it, I share the exact same sentiments. It's not a blind following of factors over which we have no control. It is perhaps a choice of acknowledging positives rather than dwelling on negatives, or of choosing to have no feeling at all.
Quote: PhQnix @ October 22 2008, 12:51 PM BSTOooh there's a philosophical question for the ages. What's stronger? Aaron's hatred of France or his love of zooo?
If zooo weren't English, then we wouldn't have even nearly as much in common.
Quote: DaButt @ October 22 2008, 1:09 PM BSTYou are greatly misinformed.
Probably. I'm just going on the things Sarah Palin says.
Quote: Aaron @ October 22 2008, 1:20 PM BSTUnfortunately you're arguing against something which you can only truly understand if you feel it yourself...
I think right at the start there, I would have to disagree.
I know only too well about feelings of pride. All humans do.
I'm saying that I believe it is misplaced when applied to country, race, religion and sexuality.
And you believe differently.
Quote: chipolata @ October 22 2008, 1:22 PM BSTProbably. I'm just going on the things Sarah Palin says.
I stopped listening to her quite early on. What an awful mouthpiece!
I could not vote for a party that believes she would make an appropriate Vice President!
Quote: PhQnix @ October 22 2008, 12:51 PM BSTWhat's stronger? Aaron's hatred of France or his love of zooo?
Would that make Aaaron a zooophiliac?
Quote: Eat_My_Shirts @ October 22 2008, 1:53 AM BSTParents of little boys with long hair like this:
Aw. I think that boy looks cute.
I'd let my kid have whatever hair he wanted.