Quote: sootyj @ October 22 2008, 9:13 AM BST
How about if the people who define other people by their race or sexuality also promise stop it?
Except what's wrong with pride?
Especially if in your lifetime you've only been allowed to take any pride for a few decades?
I think pride may have been the word you're looking for.
I'll stop bating you if you stop bating me, eh? Nice idea but it won't work. Not human nature. There will always be twats.
So you think pride is OK?
Well, yes it is, but it's very dangerous and I think it needs to be kept in it's place.
Pride in country of birth, race, the religion you were born into, your sexuality, etc. is totally misplaced in my view.
Isn't it rather juvenile to be proud of something just because it happened to you randomly? Unless you happen to have chosen a different religion than the one you were born into, of course. But then pride in your chosen God is very dangerous indeed. Witness much history!
And no one "allows you" to be proud. You either are or you aren't.
If you mean "openly proud" then this is not a "virtue" I admire anyway. I can be proud in private of those things I am proud of and am fully satisfied with that. Also, I don't need others to know what I'm proud of. I don't need their approval. If what I'm doing is against their so-called laws or upsets them then I'll do it anyway, in private. I don't need to advertise and I don't need a public audience.
"I'm *fill in the blank* and I'm proud" (privately and quietly and without bothering anyone else with it)
Quote: PhQnix @ October 22 2008, 9:15 AM BST
How old does the boy have to be before you start hating him and not his parents?
One can dislike a child from any age upwards. Hate is a strong word though. Hate the kid for being a rapist or murderer but not for having long hair!!! Of course, if he's French...