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Quote: Griff @ October 8 2008, 1:03 AM BSTAKA the motto of The Slanderer's Society.
Honesty by no means implies fairness. Unless you consider (for example) Aaron's views on black people to be "fair" because he is being honest.
That's mixing up context.
Obviously if Aaron was to set up a site about people of diferent ethnic backgrounds I would want him carted off for political reeducation sharpish.
But if you can praise when something is good and moan when it's bad.
Maybe the word true is better? To only say stuff you consider to be true?
I suspect there's a vast diference between us pallid comedy geeks in our oubliettes and the majority of normals.
So we may truly and honestly hate stuff, that people with lives enjoy.
Quote: zooo @ October 7 2008, 8:50 PM BSTBut even the good stuff gets trashed, really vitriolic...ally(word?).
But I guess that's just the way it is.
Good stuff? Good stuff is what you like yourself. That's the problem. And most of the time we make throw away comments. We say "It's crap", etc. because people can't be arsed to explain why they don't like something.
I often say "The Office" is crap but I can rarely be arsed to explain why it's crap for me. Who cares anyway?
Like I just can't be arsed to read any more of this thread. It's crap!! 
Actually, back to the original blog posting: it's excellent that Micheal's described the process for all us writers who are unfamiliar with how it works. (As mentioned in the replies and in what Perry says,) it's good that he chips away at the walls between the BBC Comedy Department and people like us, at least keeping us informed. And to keep his sense of humour about it when he does visit (good sign of a Comedy Head)
I mean 'Head of Comedy', not that he has a comedy head. Though chip may disagree...
Dan
Anybody who posts on here is OK in my book. Apart from frostyboy, who is a tit.
Apropo of nothing I'm just watching George Osbourne on the news.
He looks very handsome but caddish.
Like he'd get his nanny pregnant then fire her, whilst laughing into his glass of champagne.
God, could you imagine the Mandelson/Osbourne summit a few weeks ago? Major source of the EU smarm lake.
Quote: Griff @ October 7 2008, 8:53 PM BSTI think Micheal might be making the schoolboy error of "giving two shits what a load of f**king idiots on the Internet think".
This is halfway through the thread so someone may have already said this but... He gives a shit more about writers than he does about what 'f**king idiots' think about the shows he has produced. Particularly he cares more about genuinely developing new talent than anybody I have ever met in television - in a practical way, not in a lets do some kind of exercise lip service initiative. His post on the BBC Blog was not a pop at this site, those sorts of comments from supposedly wannabee writers have been around since forums started, going back to the writers forum, now defunct, on the BBC site itself. He put the post on the writersroom blog not as a rant - but again to be genuinely helpful, strangely enough - it's not about the attitude to his work he is addressing, it is the attitude of those who would write professionally are taking to other writer's. He is advocating the virtues of a considered deconstruction of a piece, in more empathetic and reasoned detail than that of a civilian slagging something off down the pub that's all. Simply saying something is shite and my stuff is better doesn't help very much. At least SootyJ seems to be saying he needs help that the BBC isn't providing for him to progress in his chosen career. I think if he looks in the right places he might find the help is there to find out for himself if he can do it. If the drawbridge is raised then Micheal Jacob is standing there dangling a rope. He might not look like Robin Hood and thankfully isn't wearing green tights but he does shoot straight.
Quote: Graham Bandage @ October 8 2008, 9:10 AM BSTAnybody who posts on here is OK in my book. Apart from frostyboy, who is a tit.
Same here...
And anyone with a sausage in their avatar...
Quote: Marc P @ October 8 2008, 9:27 AM BSTThis is halfway through the thread so someone may have already said this but... He gives a shit more about writers than he does about what 'f**king idiots' think about the shows he has produced. Particularly he cares more about genuinely developing new talent than anybody I have ever met in television - in a practical way, not in a lets do some kind of exercise lip service initiative. His post on the BBC Blog was not a pop at this site, those sorts of comments from supposedly wannabee writers have been around since forums started, going back to the writers forum, now defunct, on the BBC site itself. He put the post on the writersroom blog not as a rant - but again to be genuinely helpful, strangely enough - it's not about the attitude to his work he is addressing, it is the attitude of those who would write professionally are taking to other writer's. He is advocating the virtues of a considered deconstruction of a piece, in more empathetic and reasoned detailed than that of a civilian slagging something off down the pub that's all. Simply saying something is shite and my stuff is better doesn't help very much. At least SootyJ seems to be saying he needs help that the BBC isn't providing for him to progress in his chosen career. I think if he looks in the right places he might find the help is there to find out for himself if he can do it. If the drawbridge is raised then Micheal Jacob is standing there dangling a rope. He might not look like Robin Hood and thankfully isn't wearing green tights but he does shoot straight.
amen to that
Quote: Paul W @ October 8 2008, 9:27 AM BSTAnd anyone with a sausage in their avatar...
zooo made me do it. And she's a global moderator, pint boy.
Paul W also has a sausage in his avatar but it just happens to be below the line of vision 
Oh dear. I've met George Osborne. Several times.
An Aspiring Writer is the name of my blog. Anyway, I've never commented on a show on here but those who do don't do it to say they're better than the show writers, it's just a matter of opinion but I think he means the language used could be more subtle maybe?
Quote: Marc P @ October 8 2008, 9:27 AM BSTHis post on the BBC Blog was not a pop at this site,
Mmmm. I'm not so sure.
MJ in the comments to his blog:
"It would be wrong if up and coming writers didn't feel they could do better than the established lot, and write the scripts to try and prove it, but I think the alternative comedians had more to say than: this is baaaaad, or this is sh**e."
'Someone' on the Coming of Age thread:
"Watched fifteen minutes of this last night. It is shit. Like, as has been mentioned, a crappy kids sit-com with added, constant sex 'gags'.
It is baaaaad. To think they cancelled Pulling to fill BBC3 up with more stuff like this. It beggars belief. "
Maybe it's just coincidence? 
Btw 'someone' isn't me, and there is some sort of more constructive criticism between the words 'shit' and 'baaaad'.
Quote: Dolly Dagger @ October 8 2008, 9:48 AM BSTBtw 'someone' isn't me, and there is some sort of more constructive criticism between the words 'shit' and 'baaaad'.
Lol, yeah that's what I meant by the language thing!