I like apple sized boobs. Or tiny bee sting ones are nice sometimes. 
If it turned out that God does exist.. Page 2
I'm not overly bothered - as long as they're not freaky scary sized fake dealies liked Jordan's.
If there WERE a god, his first job IMHO would be to read some classics as recommended by D. Adams esquire : 'Where God Went Wrong', 'God's Biggest Mistakes' and 'Who Is This God Person Anyway?'...
... with a view to setting a few things straight hereabouts.
He might start with the weather...
People are always having a go at god about allowing sufffering, starvation, evil etc, but the truth is, things could be a lot worse. God could actually be doing a bloody good job in difficult circumstances.
Quote: chipolata @ September 17 2008, 2:18 PM BSTPeople are always having a go at god about allowing sufffering, starvation, evil etc, but the truth is, things could be a lot worse. God could actually be doing a bloody good job in difficult circumstances.
Now that is funny! 
Who the hell is Katey Price?
Quote: WrongTale @ September 17 2008, 2:27 PM BSTWho the hell is Katey Price?
Is that your question to God?
Quote: WrongTale @ September 17 2008, 2:27 PM BSTWho the hell is Katey Price?
Well I'm glad there's SOMEONE hasn't heard of her!
Who the hell is God? There, get all philosophical about that, you buggers.
I didn't accuse you of apathy, honestly, Frankie. I had tongue firmly in cheek. 
The problem (as Sooty points out) with blaming God for suffering is that the accuser must also deny their own free will. The true reason there's suffering in the world is because of man and his nature, and that is independent of whether there's a God or not. That 25,000 children die a day should inspire the question "Where was I?" not "Where was God?" Especially true if the person asking the question doesn't believe in a God because we can't shift the blame for actions / inactions onto a being we don't believe is there.
Touching on Sooty's DVD analogy. One of my many scribbles talks a bit (only a bit) about eternity not being the popular idea of an unending tedious sequence of time but rather the absence of time. This aspect of the multi-dimensional universe has always fascinated me. If time is the fourth dimension then our 4-D universe if viewed by a being (or beings) from higher dimensions would seem to be an unchanging constant. Everything that had, is, and will happen in our universe is forever frozen. In that respect, beings from those dimensions above time would appear to be unchanging, omniscient and omnipresent when compared to our own meagre slice of experience. So I suppose they / he / she would appear godlike in that respect.
If God does exist, surely no creature could hope to outwit him or defeat him with logic, else they'd be God. Perhaps it's because we have a popularised notion of God being a bumbling old man in white robes and beard and being a little befuddled with age. I think if faced with the reality and not the man-made straw-dog image, we'd listen than speak. Plus I think I'd cry (happy and sad tears) at the beauty, terror, and awfulness (as in awe-ful) of the sight.
If I had to speak I'd say: Thank you for my parents and my family. Thank you for birthing me into a society that's fantastically rich in comparison with history, and giving me interesting times.
Quote: sootyj @ September 17 2008, 1:21 PM BSTjust becuase he see's an event doesn't mean he can influence it.
But doesn't that suggest that God is fallible? I thought God was meant to be all-powerful, able to influence time and space like a great big holy Doctor Who?
Quote: Aaron @ September 17 2008, 10:58 AM BSTThey must deserve it.
Your continued existence disproves that. 
Quote: chipolata @ September 17 2008, 2:18 PM BSTPeople are always having a go at god about allowing sufffering, starvation, evil etc, but the truth is, things could be a lot worse. God could actually be doing a bloody good job in difficult circumstances.
Like Gordon, you mean..
Quote: Frankie Rage @ September 17 2008, 3:30 PM BSTYour continued existence disproves that.
Touche, Frankie. Tres bon.
Quote: Perry Nium @ September 17 2008, 3:27 PM BSTBut doesn't that suggest God is fallible? I thought God was meant to be all-powerful, able to influence time and space like a great big holy Doctor Who?
Re: infallibility is the inability to make a mistake surely? But blaming God for not interfering is assuming that:
a) he / she hasn't
b) we'd be able to tell if and when God had interfered, which confers omniscience on us
c) that our definition of what and when to interfere is better than a being's infinitely more capable of judging that issue.
And it presumes that a God exists, naturally.
Quote: Nigel Kelly @ September 17 2008, 1:36 PM BSTNIGEL: God, what's it all about?
GOD: (God takes off a mask and reveals he is John Lydon) What's it all about, they scream and then they shout. Don't ask me cos I don't know.
Lovely stuff!
Quote: SlagA @ September 17 2008, 3:25 PM BSTI didn't accuse you of apathy, honestly, Frankie. I had tongue firmly in cheek.
Quote: SlagA @ September 17 2008, 3:25 PM BSTIf I had to speak I'd say: Thank you for my parents and my family. Thank you for birthing me into a society that's fantastically rich in comparison with history, and giving me interesting times.
..and being funny, to boot!
They say a God's coming when it thunders!
Jeez!
Quote: john lucas 101 @ September 17 2008, 8:30 AM BSTFrankie, you're not trying to sign us up for an Alpha course are you? I've seen those posters!
Well spotted!
If it turned out that God does exist then what makes you think you would ever get the chance to say anything to him? God exists therefore he loves us, cares about us, and is extremely bothered about us doesn't follow.
Quote: SlagA @ September 17 2008, 3:25 PM BSTTouching on Sooty's DVD analogy. One of my many scribbles talks a bit (only a bit) about eternity not being the popular idea of an unending tedious sequence of time but rather the absence of time. This aspect of the multi-dimensional universe has always fascinated me. If time is the fourth dimension then our 4-D universe if viewed by a being (or beings) from higher dimensions would seem to be an unchanging constant. Everything that had, is, and will happen in our universe is forever frozen. In that respect, beings from those dimensions above time would appear to be unchanging, omniscient and omnipresent when compared to our own meagre slice of experience. So I suppose they / he / she would appear godlike in that respect.
I sometimes wonder if time is actually real. What if time doesn't exist at all? We're only alive in this one moment and all our memories are illusion.
Hmm, that's probably why I'm not a philosopher 
A human life is so short in duration that time, effectively, doesn't exist. A billion 'years' is a decent amount of 'time'.