Quote: Gavin @ August 10 2008, 6:31 PM BSTI'll fill in.
"no you have worse self image...no you do...you do, you do, you do"
ROFL
Bad day? Page 81
*hides in a corner*
I've seen the Manics three times. Twice before that bloke disappeared.
Don't even like 'em.
Richey? I never liked them much, but I read an article in NME about his disappearance, and it was really touching.
Quote: zooo @ August 10 2008, 6:35 PM BSTI've seen the Manics three times. Twice before that bloke disappeared.
Don't even like 'em.
For some reason, that made me burst out laughing.
Quote: Aaron @ August 10 2008, 2:10 PM BSTAh, same difference.
Or Slovakia - depending on which bit!
Quote: Aaron @ August 10 2008, 6:41 PM BSTFor some reason, that made me burst out laughing.
To me it makes me laugh because Laura seeing them again after Richey disappeared suggests that she thought that maybe the event was for the best!
Quote: Aaron @ August 10 2008, 12:27 AM BSTI don't expect you to understand a single bit of that though. Like I said, it's hard to explain.
I understood that. It makes sense. I think I have a generally bad reaction to "patriotism," it's normally thinly-veiled racism.
Quote: Scatterbrained Floozy @ August 10 2008, 6:30 PM BST
Made sense to me!
Yay! Knew it!
Quote: PhQnix @ August 13 2008, 7:26 PM BSTI understood that. It makes sense. I think I have a generally bad reaction to "patriotism," it's normally thinly-veiled racism.
I wouldn't say "normally". It's perhaps true to say that a lot of the time racists are self-promoting, but their behaviour, opinions, blah, etc, aren't true patriotism. One could argue that a form of patriotism is often coupled with extreme racism, but I don't think it's fair in the slightest to say that patriots are often/always/mostly/largely racist. (Which isn't exactly what you said of course, but you get my meaning.) I can't really think of any instance other than sports fans where racism and apparent patriotism go hand-in-hand.
You've been watching too much football. 
Quote: PhQnix @ August 13 2008, 7:26 PM BSTI understood that. It makes sense. I think I have a generally bad reaction to "patriotism," it's normally thinly-veiled racism.
Why is it everyone else is allowed to be patriotic but us English? Is it because everyone else has an inferiority complex?
Yes.
Quote: David Chapman @ August 13 2008, 7:56 PM BSTWhy is it everyone else is allowed to be patriotic but us English? Is it because everyone else has an inferiority complex?
It's because we're meant to be reservedly patriotic, not openly. Plus we can't take ourselves seriously enough to muster up good patriotism.
Quote: Aaron @ August 13 2008, 7:43 PM BSTYou've been watching too much football.
Yes.
Quote: PhQnix @ August 13 2008, 8:00 PM BSTYes.
Are you going to join the fantasy league Elliot?
Quote: ian_w @ August 13 2008, 8:01 PM BSTAre you going to join the fantasy league Elliot?
Mebbe...