Quote: sootyj @ August 12 2008, 12:45 AM BSTI'm rather more concerend about them getting to Al Quaeda.
Yes, because it really exists 
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You know if it doesn't there's some really modest guys setting of car bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It exists, maybe swelled by Iraq/Afghanistan war, but it's real.
Quote: sootyj @ August 12 2008, 12:48 AM BSTIt exists, maybe swelled by Iraq/Afghanistan war, but it's real.
uhuh. Very conviently active lately though.
Quote: sootyj @ August 12 2008, 12:36 AM BSTIt's very sensible UK Trident can't work without US technical input.
Quite.
Quote: Gavin @ August 12 2008, 12:43 AM BSTLike the US selling us a couple of Apache Longbows and not training us how to use them so they are sitting in a hanger gathering dust...what kind allies.
I barely remember that story, but I think it was do to a UK government misstep. The Apache has been sold to several other allies as well.
True Al Quaeda like My Little Pony was always more of a brand, than a real organisation.
But a lethal brand.
Quote: sootyj @ August 12 2008, 12:45 AM BSTI'm rather more concerend about them getting to Al Quaeda.
Al Quaeda? Who are they? They sound like some middle eastern pop group combo that Sting's teamed up with to save the world. Sting and The Al Quaeda's has a good ring to it actually. Or have I missed something?
Quote: sootyj @ August 12 2008, 12:45 AM BSTI'm rather more concerend about them getting to Al Quaeda.
That was one of the "rogue elements" I was referring to.
Quote: ian_w @ August 12 2008, 12:45 AM BSTWe should've kept the Harrier keys.
We should nurture the talent to design and build everything at home.
Quote: sootyj @ August 12 2008, 12:48 AM BSTYou know if it doesn't there's some really modest guys setting of car bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It exists, maybe swelled by Iraq/Afghanistan war, but it's real.
Both countries are occupied. Some retaliation is to be expected.
So what proof do you have that they all know each other? Maybe the IRA are Al Qaeda as well, because they used to let off bombs?
Quote: DaButt @ August 12 2008, 12:51 AM BSTI barely remember that story, but I think it was do to a UK government misstep. The Apache has been sold to several other allies as well.
With or without instruction 
Quote: Aaron @ August 12 2008, 12:52 AM BSTWe should nurture the talent to design and build everything at home.
Agreed.
And we used to. The UK V bomber force was flying at Mach2 all the way to Moscow under Radar cover. When the USAF was still lumbering around in B52s.
The computer, the jet all UK inventions all stupidly pissed up the wall.
Quote: Aaron @ August 12 2008, 12:52 AM BSTWe should nurture the talent to design and build everything at home.
Bombs included?
Quote: Aaron @ August 12 2008, 12:52 AM BSTWe should nurture the talent to design and build everything at home.
Like the Harriers?
Quote: Aaron @ August 12 2008, 12:52 AM BSTWe should nurture the talent to design and build everything at home.
Maybe I'm thinking of another system, but I'm pretty sure that the UK's Apaches were built in England. That's how it goes with many weapons systems these days. Our Air Force just signed a huge contract to replace their aging tankers and Airbus won out over Boeing. I think the award will be contested for a long time, so nothing's definite yet.