Inevitably acrimonious racism discussion Page 8

Ok lets atart by doing away with the idea of punishment, e.g. a negative response to some ones actions.

The idea of punishing the guilty is fundmanetal failure. We wait till the act has happened and then respond.

In medicine it would be seeing the Dr with a wart, and being told to come back when it's tumour.

In education it would be waiting till the adult is illiterate rather than teaching the child.

I would be more likely to say intensive therpay for kids who show early sociopathic tendencies, banning rap music that extoles a criminal tendency, and no automaitc right for incapable parents to bring up their own children.

Crime should be seen as the failure of society, not the individual.

If paedophiles, or serial killers could be stopped by gving them a £5.50 book token, shouldn't we start a collection?

Only partailly with in a very narrow frmae work.

Most true dictators, and fascists start by telling people they are free.

Certainly a democracy with 3 similar main parties, and no compulsory voter education, or voting is a mess and unlikely to reflect much of value.

Ok to be blunt.

Partially responsible.

I believe individual responsibility is something only a real tryant could truly believe in.

Man is born free, but every where is in chains and all that.

Chains don't disapear because you think they should.

No I mean responsibility.

A person who lives on £5 a day, and every iindicator in his life says £4.50 will feel rich. If the indicator is £5.50 he will feel poor.

A person who never learnt the lateral, communicative thinking that most of us take for granted, can be expected to think his way out of confrontational settings.

Otherwise I'd be free to punch my boss in appraisals, as that is accpetable (albeit punishable behaviour) if I was in prison.

Responsibility is a complex alchemy of abbility, power, and societal pressure,.

We are more responsible than some but less thna others.

Like I say it's a flexible thing.

You don't people who line push, partially through social conditiong, and partially you'd fear even a mild jail sentence/losing your job.

Same with me.

That's not a personal takig on of responsibility it's a leanrt/conditioned behaviour you have very little control of.

Freedom and responsibility are very, very similar.

sooty,

what the f**k are you talking about, mate?!!

Reading your posts on this thread gives me a clue to your mindset thus helping me to understand your skits.

I'm glad you're not a politician 'cos your manifesto would take some reading!
Mind you, I'm sure that some of it would be laughable.
Which would make a nice change.

Sigh why do all critiques of my work come down to either

you write loads of skits they're all shit

or

you spell bad

sigh I guess I have idiosyncratic views on the nature of free will, an responsibility.

and no Griff you are a number, wasn't that the whole point of the last epsiode.

The village is every where, and we are all number 6.

both are true, but not always strictly relevant.

Quote: sootyj @ July 25 2008, 6:24 PM BST

Sigh why do all critiques of my work come down to either

you write loads of skits they're all shit

or

you spell bad

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Well, I blame society for the first ... and the second.

(You know me and my estimation of your work well enough to know that I'm joking there, Sooty. You are indeed esteemed in the Slaggs' world.)

Quote: sootyj @ July 25 2008, 6:24 PM BST

Sigh why do all critiques of my work come down to either

you write loads of skits they're all shit

or

you spell bad

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Sooty, you haven't really asked that, have you?!
Mate, with your output it is only natural that a fair number will be of dubious quality.

Aid and I don't write any where near enough to use that as an excuse!

Quote: Griff @ July 25 2008, 2:27 PM BST

You are mental.

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It's taken you this long to notice?

Quote: sootyj @ July 25 2008, 2:30 PM BST

Imprisoning prisoners

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Hmmm...

Quote: sootyj @ July 25 2008, 6:24 PM BST

Sigh why do all critiques of my work come down to either

you write loads of skits they're all shit

or

you spell bad

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There's at least two lessons to learn there.

Not that it is your responsibility to learn them. We should have taught you already.

Aaron what a delgihtful example of well used irony, clever, amusing, and put me in my place.

Something according to my views, a just society should have done along time ago.

Quote: chipolata @ July 25 2008, 12:25 PM BST

I'm sure there are some lazy arsed Asians running corner shops. I doubt they're all hardworking.

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Maybe - but not in our three corner shops, it's known locally as 'the triangle of totally concientious Asians'..

I'm just glad I never started a thread titled "inevitably acrimonious racism discussion". I would never have guessed what might happen there!

Quote: Griff @ July 26 2008, 12:09 AM BST

Except that bizarrely, there haven't been any arguments about racism. Which I think you can all congratulate yourselves on.

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See, I'd never have guessed that.

Glad you enjoyed your play. I always enjoy playing with ideas, and fortunately in a sane society my power extends to one vote only.

Like Lewis Caroll I try to think of 6 impossible things before breakfast.

As ever you are an energetic sparring partner.

Quote: Badge @ July 26 2008, 12:10 AM BST

See, I'd never have guessed that.

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Is it true your a racist badge?

Your name is an anagram of Edgba, and that can't be good.