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Just sat in the studio audience for Clone

OK, to set the scene...i am back home in Earley (just outside Reading), the show was filmed in Wembley, it's a 45 min drive and i expect they are still filming as i type this!

Back to the beginning...First of all, London - what is with all the cars? Left at 4.10pm expecting to have time to get something to eat first...arrived at 6.35pm after sitting in traffic for hours. The sooner they whack up car tax and petrol the better!

Anyway - greeted by a gay man...how very showbiz! (i could tell he was gay because a) he greeted me and my wife by saying "hi sexy people, tickets please" and b) because he told a joke to the bloke behind us in the que that involved them shagging him) Went in - no food, no drink....place was a bit cheap looking but lots of cool gear around. Had front row seats!

The highlight (for me) then occurs as Adam Chase (Friends) and Ash Atalla (The Office) stand in front of me to discuss the opening (i say stand, obviously ash was sitting - i could have slipped a script into the back of his chair he was that close!)

Then it went downhill - the show is a mix of sit com and scfi so there was a LOT of waiting around while they did stuff that CGI would sort out later. There was also a large amount of re-shoots...they did every scene at least 3 times with, at times, 10 mins between shots.

It was also a bit heavy on the slapstick and seemed VERY low on funny dialogue (considering Adam wrote it - i was tempted to yell out "could this BE any more boring" but thought better) For example, one scene involved a man falling over which took about 25 mins, 4 re-shoots, ages while they lugged a crash mat on and off...i just sat there wishing it was 1995 and Adam was producing Friends were they would have banged through 20 gags by now.

By 10pm (3hrs in and 15 mins after we should all have left) they had prob shot about 7 mins of footage in front of us. There was 3 mins they had planned to shot off site and there was 5 mins they scrapped and decided they would do another time as it didn't need the audience)..so still plenty of time left...but AT LEAST half the audience had left! We gave it 10 more minutes, during which they shot about 20 secs and then we cut loose!

In summary - glad i went, very interesting....would never go again. Well, maybe i would, i think a pilot with a writer and directer (yanks) new to working in the UK and a new production company was never going to run as slick as something from the 6th season of Seinfeld.

What was interesting was the laughs...first of all - we WEREN'T asked to laugh, "have fun" is all they said...no LUAGH boards or anything like that. The stand up guy (who earnt his money tonight keeping people in the building!) made everyone feel very jokey so it was easy to laugh at things that wouldn't raise a smile when i watch it on TV...but there were also "jokes" that fell 100% flat and it was also the case that many jokes that got a laugh on the 1st take got nothing by the 4th...i assume there MUST be some jiggery pokery that goes on there.

Anyway, glad i went, wished it had been better, don't think I'll like the show (too slap stick), sad it didn't have the dialogue of Adam's most famous work and very confident my own stuff is as good (i genuinely sat there thinking...if they laugh at this they'll love what i have for them ;)

Best gag of the night - about queing to buy the latest Harry Potter and realising no one in the que was under 30 and the guy behind you was a disappointed paedophile....and that was the warm up guys gag! Typical joke from the show.....Dr to his "clone" who has memory issues "do you remember what i told you" "yes" "good, what was it" "you said, do you remember what i told you" Huh?

All the retakes etc sounds mind numbingly boring!

I always get a bit confused with just what a studio audience sitcom is. Does it mean a studio is watching it as filmed? Just that I know a lot of shows are filmed and THEN shown to an audience to get the laughter track.

Oh dear, it sounds like they should have done the CGI bits in advance, and played them back on monitors to the audience later. Disappointed to hear that it isn't very funny either - people always laugh more if they're watching a sitcom in a studio audience, so if tonight's audience didn't manage that we at home are really going to struggle.

Thanks for the comprehensive post Pete - very interesting indeed!

You might be interested in this Hollywood Reporter article. Adam Chase talks about producing Clone in that and how different he's finding it from working in the US.

Quote: Winterlight @ July 11 2008, 11:44 PM BST

All the retakes etc sounds mind numbingly boring!

I always get a bit confused with just what a studio audience sitcom is. Does it mean a studio is watching it as filmed? Just that I know a lot of shows are filmed and THEN shown to an audience to get the laughter track.

A studio audience sitcom is one where the audience actually watch the sitcom being filmed (which is what Clone is). A audience screening is where they play back an already recorded comedy to an invited audience to record their laughs (which is what Harry and Paul are doing). Sounds like Clone should have been the latter!

I'm not sure there's a technical term for a screening ('audience screened comedy'?). Although recording is getting better, comedies screened to an audience at a later date do sound quite 'canned'. The audience at the Last of the Summer Wine's screenings laugh as if they're watching the funniest thing they've ever seen! (perhaps it is?)

Pete, was that your first experience of a studio recording?

My Mother The Car.

Laughing out loud

Quote: Mark @ July 11 2008, 11:50 PM BST

You might be interested in this Hollywood Reporter article. Adam Chase talks about producing Clone in that and how different he's finding it from working in the US.

Yep - read it this afternoon...the lack of budget was pretty evident!

Quote: Aaron @ July 11 2008, 11:58 PM BST

Pete, was that your first experience of a studio recording?

Yep, prior to this I've only been to the movies and the panto.

Well, don't give up on them. It sounds like this was a particularly bad one. I've been to literally dozens over the past 5 or so years, and never have they been anywhere near as bad as you describe!

Basically, don't let it put you off if you see anotehr show you're interested in going to. :)

Quote: Mark @ July 11 2008, 11:50 PM BST

Oh dear, it sounds like they should have done the CGI bits in advance

A lot of that are planning to do after they said..there was also a giant green screen set up that they had planned to shot on tonight and then add in the FX later but in the end they skipped that and we had the rather sad sight of Adam Chase using the warm up guys mic to read us through the "hilarious" scene that would have been shot but will now be done later (to be honest - i'm not sure there were many laughs they'd have got if they did it with us there!)

Now i've had a chance to think about it the main problem is that it didnt quite know if its drama or comedy - at one point Adam apologised and explained the delays were because it was part sitcom and part action movie (little carried away i think!) But there were scenes were it was 95% laugh free and, while it moved the plot on, it was boring.

Best example (and without giving anything away in terms of spoilers) - The Clone appears covered in pink gooo at the start of the show (bit like Neo when they yank him from the matrix!) After a couple of scenes were the "comedy" seemed to be him falling over because the goo was slippy they cut to a scene where he escapes dressed as someone else.....It took a good 30 mins at least to clean the actor, clean the floor, etc, etc before the "escape" scene was ready...so the warm up guy gets us all excited......in burst the special forces guys to grab the clone, they grab the wrong guy by mistake and Clone sneaks out the door......CUT...do it again, twice! A laughless sceen that we waited ages for.....by this time the round of applause after each scene was getting quieter!

I suppose it's like going to watch Dr Who get filmed and then moan it wasn't very exciting! In my mind this would have been better with no audience and do it as a real mix of Dr Who and a Sitcom....however, maybe the FX (which were geared very much to the Clones "birth" will be tonned down in future episodes? If the idea is the Clone has special powers and the FX are a running theme then i dont have high hopes - the only "power" we saw was that he spat beer over some extras because he didnt like the taste...the only time it was funny that it took a few takes - as we saw extras at the end of a 12hr day getting spat at for their £50!)

Quote: Aaron @ July 12 2008, 1:02 AM BST

Basically, don't let it put you off if you see anotehr show you're interested in going to. :)

I wont :D I may also have been pretty harsh as this was a hard one for them to film and keep the audience happy. When the first people started to leave the warm up guy took the piss as they left....once people where going every time they called cut (and we were allowed to move) he just resorted to "thanks for coming" as we were escorted out by the studio staff - was funny when two young black guys left and there were no studio dolly birds to see them off the set so a security guard did it "full on security for you boys" said the warm up guy, just being funny and not realising it sounded a tad racist!

Oh yeah...

Quote: Pete @ July 11 2008, 11:38 PM BST

Anyway - greeted by a gay man...how very showbiz! (i could tell he was gay because a) he greeted me and my wife by saying "hi sexy people, tickets please" and b) because he told a joke to the bloke behind us in the que that involved them shagging him)

Martin's great, isn't he? :D

Quote: Pete @ July 12 2008, 1:07 AM BST

"full on security for you boys" said the warm up guy, just being funny and not realising it sounded a tad racist!

Out of interest, who was the warm up guy?

Quote: Aaron @ July 12 2008, 1:09 AM BST

Martin's great, isn't he? :D

Out of interest, who was the warm up guy?

It was cool...I dont know anyone gay so it was a new experience to be told i had a "sexy wrist" as he put our wrist passes on! All very jazz hands!

Warm up guy was called adrian i think (camp, but not gay) He was ok....not a great stand up but did well considering he had to "perform" for 95% of our time there...literally!

Quote: Pete @ July 12 2008, 1:12 AM BST

It was cool...I dont know anyone gay so it was a new experience to be told i had a "sexy wrist" as he put our wrist passes on! All very jazz hands!

Me either! He's very friendly though, and very helpful. Never told me that my wrist was sexy, mind. Teary

Quote: Pete @ July 12 2008, 1:12 AM BST

Warm up guy was called adrian i think (camp, but not gay)

Adrian... Erm. Adrian Poynton? http://www.comedycv.co.uk/adrianpoynton/index.htm

Thats him! To be fair he wasn't there to do stand up and was more about keeping us up to speed while being funny....which he did.

Biggest laugh of the night - he spots a couple and tells the older bloke that his lass is very hot and that he's punching above his weight to be shacked up with that.....to which the bloke explained he was with his duaghter!

LOL. Sometimes the warmup guys/gals can be great. Sounds like you had a reasonably good one on Clone.

For 95% of the time the option was watch him, watch Ash wheelie over the camera cables to get around set or watch people clean pink goooo of the floor to re-shoot another "the clone's fallen over" shot!

Adrian had an easy night!

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