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Quote: Timbo @ July 6 2008, 7:37 PM BST

That's a bit holier than thou...

Didn't mean it to be at all. I dip into these forums now and then and whilst they are here to be a space to discuss all facets of comedy writing, all that I read are tit-for-tat attempts at one-upmanship which is grossly unprofessional and does not happen in the real comedy writing world so many round here are aspiring to.

From my experience, comedy writing is not about trying to outwit the last insult directed at you in a forum thread.

That's all. No offence meant.

I think there was a joke there 2 etc, perhaps a closer reading of posts might sometimes be called for.

Although he has a point however humorously made.

:)

Quote: 2ChristianTypists @ July 7 2008, 3:28 PM BST

all that I read are tit-for-tat attempts at one-upmanship which is grossly unprofessional

calm down dear...no one is being paid to post here, with don't need to be professional. grossly impolite may be more accurate, although some of us wouldn't be too fussed with that either ;)

Quote: 2ChristianTypists @ July 7 2008, 3:28 PM BST

From my experience, comedy writing is not about trying to outwit the last insult directed at you in a forum thread.

I don't know Pete, she might have a point. Who's winning by the way?

:)

she? has no point. This is a writers discussion forum, the posts do not need to be comedic so it's irrelevant as to what comedy writing is or is not about.

You could just as easily post on the F1 forum that posting on forums is not what driving an F1 car is all about.

Oh, and i am....(haven't kept tabs but its a safe assumption :D )

LOL.

Fair enough.

:)

Quote: 2ChristianTypists @ July 7 2008, 3:28 PM BST

That's all. No offence meant.

None taken. But to be honest I have not seen very much evidence on this site of what you are describing. There were a few festering niggles, and this thread had done a service in getting them all out in the open. We are all friends again now.

I've been trying to hold back on interfering but can I say that Marc P's detailed crit in Critique was excellent and went beyond the call of duty. Saying that 'a joke is needed here' isn't a diplomatic or deceptive way of saying 'this is unfunny', it's alerting the writer to the pacing and distribution of humour within a scene. Even some professional writers still have to subject their work to an overseer who'll comment and request amendments. Making TV or radio is often a collaborative effort and the scriptwriter sometimes has to accomodate the views of several people within the hierarchy. Collaboration means compromise means admitting the possibility that someone else's way may be better. To be honest, I want product on the TV, so if someone's input makes it stronger, I'll incorporate it.

To see a script editor's comments in detail would have been a great eye-opener and free tutorial to many of us here. I'm unafraid to put myself in that category, I'm always willing to read and learn.

I can honestly say that I've read very little on Crit that had no redeeming features that I could point to. This may mean my ability to judge good / bad comedy is deemed crap. But comedy is subjective, and subjectivity hinges on personality. To suggest that a script is deserving of nil points or 100% totally negative comment means that the poster must have failed on every single aspect which is as unlikely as finding the perfect script.

When a person subjects their work to professional criticism (by sending to a production company) then they can have no complaints about being judged amongst the Linehan's and Curtis's of this world. But this is a public forum, not a producer's desk. The crits should reflect the fact that our opinions count for jack shit as to whether the work gets commissioned or otherwise. Producers will decide that. The experience of the poster, the stage at which they are at, the seriousness behind the piece are factors that vary and are often unknown to us. I've read stuff here that I considered weak, that has attracted attention beyond the forum, and vice versa.

I'm not saying hold back on negs but don't hold back on positives either. Our opinions on this forum affect nothing but our attitudes (percieved or otherwise) and the way we treat other people extends far beyond that.

A very good post SlagA. What you have said is spot on.

Def.

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