Quote: zooo @ July 3 2008, 4:04 PM BSTAll that was purely in response to Pete's post, bringing god into it in the first place.
I was aiming that more at Perry and the other logic-dodgers on this thread.
Quote: zooo @ July 3 2008, 4:04 PM BSTAll that was purely in response to Pete's post, bringing god into it in the first place.
I was aiming that more at Perry and the other logic-dodgers on this thread.
Rather than prove the case for UFOs, I'm really saying keep more of an open mind.
Anyway, Perry, any other odd experiences? Ghosts etc?
Quote: chipolata @ July 3 2008, 3:24 PM BSTThere wouldn't be mass panic at all (whatever that would entail). We'd all be too busy with Big Brother and Amy Winehouse and Andy Murray's chances at next years Wimbeldon to care about little green men with black eyes.
So if it came on the news tonight that aliens have been visiting and abducting humans for scientific experiments and that you might well be next, you WOULDN'T immediately shit your kecks? I know I would.
Look at War Of The Worlds when it was first broadcast on radio in America in the fifties. Thousands thought it was real and went out on the rampage in blind panic. One man shot his own kids in preference to them getting abducted.
Quote: Bad dog @ July 3 2008, 4:06 PM BSTRather than prove the case for UFOs, I'm really saying keep more of an open mind.
Anyway, Perry, any other odd experiences? Ghosts etc?
Nah. Never seen a ghost. That's not to say I refuse to acknowledge their existence - after all most people have a spooky story to tell don't they?
It makes me laugh how people can say well they couldn't possibly do this because of this and that, like we know just about everything about the universe now.
Like they couldn't possibly travel such a great distance across space. That really is assuming an aweful lot. For starters how exactly are they travelling? We have absolutely no idea what space is made of, and therefore we have no clue how this 'substance' could be manipulated. We just think of travelling as in taking a ferry from Dover to Calias, cos, like with so many other things, that's all we know and all we can understand.
And how do we know it's a journey across space? What if string theory is right and there are many dimensions? And if according to this theory it's possible for gravitons to seep from one dimension to another, then why not other matter/energy/whatever?
I reckon he was jsut looking for a good excuse.
If aliens found us, the technology differential would be so vast.
It'd be like us an Spider Monkeys. They'd eat us, f**k us, ignore us, or stick us in the Zoo.
And we wouldn't have a damn thing to say about it.
Any way as for miracles, what about all those Hoyle miracles?
Or that fact the world exists, surely thats pretty definitive proof?
Quote: zooo @ July 3 2008, 4:04 PM BSTAll that was purely in response to Pete's post, bringing god into it in the first place.
I used God but it could have a Yeti, Loch Ness, etc - All make belive and as nuts as thinking aliens are here.
Quote: Perry Nium @ July 3 2008, 4:10 PM BSTSo if it came on the news tonight that aliens have been visiting and abducting humans for scientific experiments and that you might well be next, you'd WOULDN'T immediately shit your kecks? I know I would.
Look at War Of The Worlds when it was first broadcast on radio in America in the fifties. Thousands thought it was real and went out on the rampage in blind panic. One man shot his own kids in preference to them getting abducted.
I honestly think the news would be met with a mixture of indifference, scepticism and disbelief. Yes, there'd be a few people who panic and do something stupid, but I certainly don't think it would be endemic. And, like with any big news story, we'd all be bored rigid with it after three days.
Quote: Pete @ July 3 2008, 4:14 PM BSTI used God but it could have a Yeti, Loch Ness, etc - All make belive and as nuts as thinking aliens are here.
Because you say so?
All hail Pete, who knoweth all!
Quote: ian_w @ July 3 2008, 4:13 PM BSTIt makes me laugh how people can say well they couldn't possibly do this because of this and that, like we know just about everything about the universe now.
Like they couldn't possibly travel such a great distance across space. That really is assuming an aweful lot. For starters how exactly are they travelling? We have absolutely no idea what space is made of, and therefore we have no clue how this 'substance' could be manipulated. We just think of travelling as in taking a ferry from Dover to Calias, cos, like with so many other things, that's all we know and all we can understand.
And how do we know it's a journey across space? What if string theory is right and there are many dimensions? And if according to this theory it's possible for gravitons to seep from one dimension to another, then why not other matter/energy/whatever?
Absolutely.
What I find equally amusing are people who tell you that logically-speaking, alien visitation isn't possible, then go to church on Sunday and pray to a big invisible bloke in the sky.
Funny that though isn't it? Him being up in the sky and all. My mate's a Christian and he got very annoyed when I suggested to him that if there is a God, he's an alien. I couldn't understand his logic in denying it.
After all, ET stands for Extra Terrestrial which means 'not of this earth'. Was God born on Earth? No. Therefore he's an alien.
Stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it, Christianity!
Quote: Bad dog @ July 3 2008, 3:57 PM BSTThere are eyewitness accounts, film, photos, possibly other unusual phenomenon
eyewitness - people talking nuts (plenty of people said they spoke to god...noah for one)
film/photos - proven to be aliens? i must have missed that! I know theres a crying mary statue on Youtube!
possibly blah, blah, blah - not the best word to use in a search for evidence!
Quote: Bad dog @ July 3 2008, 3:57 PM BSTThere are eyewitness accounts, film, photos, possibly other unusual phenomenon related to landings, i.e. radioactivity, ground markings etc, with regard to UFOs. Anything like this when it comes to God?
No would be the answer there.
Quote: Perry Nium @ July 3 2008, 4:17 PM BSTAbsolutely.
What I find equally amusing are people who tell you that logically-speaking, alien visitation isn't possible, then go to church on Sunday and pray to a big invisible bloke in the sky.
Funny that though isn't it? Him being up in the sky and all. My mate's a Christian and he got very annoyed when I suggested to him that if there is a God, he's an alien. I couldn't understand his logic in denying it.
After all, ET stands for Extra Terrestrial which means 'not of this earth'. Was God born on Earth? No. Therefore he's an alien.Stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it, Christianity!
Hang on - did you just abduct my point? I hope you aren't going to probe it!
Talking of sexy aliens, the one in Species was quite hot. And loved sex too (although she would kill you after mating). And I think the whole God is really an alien has been done countless times in Science Fiction. I think Star Trek had quite a few episodes revolving around that premise.
Quote: Pete @ July 3 2008, 4:19 PM BSTeyewitness - people talking nuts (plenty of people said they spoke to god...noah for one)
film/photos - proven to be aliens? i must have missed that! I know theres a crying mary statue on Youtube!
possibly blah, blah, blah - not the best word to use in a search for evidence!
Shiney eye witnesses. People who claim to have spoken to God always have scary shiney eyes. And bad taste in knitwear.
Quote: Perry Nium @ July 3 2008, 4:17 PM BSTStick THAT in your pipe and smoke it, Christianity!
Bit cocky for a man that saw a monster when he was 8 and still belives it!
Quote: Perry Nium @ July 3 2008, 4:22 PM BSTPeople who claim to have spoken to God always have scary shiney eyes.
People that claim to have seen aliens have shiny heads.