Quote: roscoff @ May 30 2008, 1:01 AM BSTEstate Agents? Jewellers?
Leni Riefensthal = Film-maker and Albert Speer = Architect and Minister of Munitions
Who is it okay to hate? Page 3
Quote: Jay N @ May 30 2008, 1:02 AM BSTLeni Riefensthal = Film-maker and Albert Speer = Architect and Minister of Munitions
Riefensthal seems ok. Talented if misguided. But Speer Knew the score and profitted from it. Sorry is not enough. I wiki'd them by the way. Never heard of them before.
I think you should like yourself, even if you hate everyone else.
Agree totally. Start with yourself and work your way around. Like a Bacchanalian orgy!
Quote: roscoff @ May 30 2008, 1:08 AM BSTRiefensthal seems ok. Talented if misguided. But Speer Knew the score and profitted from it. Sorry is not enough. I wiki'd them by the way. Never heard of them before.
Yeahs sorry for not putting who they were, but if you wiki'd them thats fair. Riefesthal is a hero of mine in the sorts (not for her Nazi conections but fot what she did in film etc) but Speer yes I agree he knew what he was doing at did admit to it in the Nuremburg trials etc
Quote: roscoff @ May 30 2008, 1:10 AM BSTAgree totally. Start with yourself and work your way around. Like a Bacchanalian orgy!
yes not taking the spotlight away from you I was going to agree with you both here but got diverted somewhere else 
Quote: zooo @ May 30 2008, 1:09 AM BSTI think you should like yourself, even if you hate everyone else.
at the risk of repeating myself again and again.....
I agree about liking yourself. Start with number one. But that also means it's much more acceptable to hate yourself - if you must hate anybody - than it is to hate anybody else.
Quote: Badge @ May 30 2008, 1:20 AM BSTat the risk of repeating myself again and again.....
I agree about liking yourself. Start with number one. But that also means it's much more acceptable to hate yourself - if you must hate anybody - than it is to hate anybody else.
It's two side of the same coin Badge. You should first like yourself. You should first hate yourself. The latter sounds...to put it in proper psychological terms. Nuts. You don't need to hate yourself before hating anybody else. In the real world you may not like some things about yourself but I'll think you'll find most people are pretty nice. So celebrate that. The negatives you have to deal with and hopefully make better. You may meet someone who is a complete c**t. It is ok to hate them. Honest.
I don't think that makes logical sense at all.
Good reasons for hating other people are that they don't have anything in common with you, and that they have differing opinions.
I personally, and I can only speak for myself, have a lot in common with myself, and share many of the same opinions.
I get on with me like a f**king house on fire.
Quote: roscoff @ May 30 2008, 1:27 AM BSTIt's two side of the same coin Badge. You should first like yourself. You should first hate yourself. The latter sounds...to put it in proper psychological terms. Nuts. You don't need to hate yourself before hating anybody else. In the real world you may not like some things about yourself but I'll think you'll find most people are pretty nice. So celebrate that. The negatives you have to deal with and hopefully make better. You may meet someone who is a complete c**t. It is ok to hate them. Honest.
..but ... but!
oh heck, the more one defends what one says the more of a tit one looks. Fact is, you can rest easy Fozzie. I do hate complete c**ts, and I don't have sleepless nights about it. I also love myself. I also think the vast majority of humanity is quite wonderful.
Is that a nice way to go to bed, or will you send the fluffer again???? 
Quote: Badge @ May 30 2008, 1:32 AM BSTI also love myself. I also think the vast majority of humanity is quite wonderful.
That's better!
Quote: zooo @ May 30 2008, 1:34 AM BSTThat's better!
I'm Switzerland on this one, why dont yoy think they don't enter Eurovision anymore
Quote: zooo @ May 30 2008, 1:34 AM BSTThat's better!
Better? That implies I said anything to the contrary! I didn't!
Quote: Badge @ May 30 2008, 1:32 AM BST..but ... but!
oh heck, the more one defends what one says the more of a tit one looks. Fact is, you can rest easy Fozzie. I do hate complete c**ts, and I don't have sleepless nights about it. I also love myself. I also think the vast majority of humanity is quite wonderful.
Is that a nice way to go to bed, or will you send the fluffer again????
Zooo is the official fluffer. Dangerous to know yet strangely frivolous at times. The way of all deity's I feel. If she feels you need fluffing, you will be fluffed.
I haven't even read your posts properly!
I sometimes like to wade in all ignorant and mouth off.
Don't tell anyone.
Quote: zooo @ May 30 2008, 1:09 AM BSTI think you should like yourself, even if you hate everyone else.
Yeah, but you've got to have something to like first!