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Quote: Chappers @ 17th March 2025, 7:49 PM

How do you know he's got a small end?

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You made me google whether he's ever gone nude in a film. My poor search history.

I just googled it as well. It'll be trending soon.

Come on people, you know what to do.

I just did a google search for 'Hugh Grant cock'. Hope that helps!

The clown show continues.
Top Secret US military war plans shared on a messaging app that anyone can download.
And none of these intellectual giants spotted that a well-known journalist was part of the group.
Surely America will run out of idiots soon?

Perhaps they'll join the Labour cabinet.

Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 25th March 2025, 9:20 AM

Perhaps they'll join the Labour cabinet.

Another zinger.

Quote: Lazzard @ 25th March 2025, 8:57 AM

The clown show continues.
Top Secret US military war plans shared on a messaging app that anyone can download.
And none of these intellectual giants spotted that a well-known journalist was part of the group.
Surely America will run out of idiots soon?

It is shocking, although Trump famously values loyalty to him over things like intelligence and competence, so it's hardly surprising this idiocy is happening.

Interesting when you read the transcipts just how much they hate Europe as well.

Quote: chipolata @ 25th March 2025, 10:23 AM

Interesting when you read the transcipts just how much they hate Europe as well.

Lots of US money found it's way into the Leave campaign's coffers.
They almost hate it as much as the Russians do.

Yep it's true - the American sponsor certainly made me vote the way I did. I didn't know until today how I was influenced because back then, like all the rest of the 'leave voters I was a brainless idiot with no thoughts of my own.

Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 25th March 2025, 10:45 AM

Yep it's true - I was a brainless idiot with no thoughts of my own.

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Quote: Lazzard @ 25th March 2025, 8:57 AM

The clown show continues.
Top Secret US military war plans shared on a messaging app that anyone can download.
And none of these intellectual giants spotted that a well-known journalist was part of the group.
Surely America will run out of idiots soon?

The Signal app offers end-to-end encryption and is generally regarded as secure, but all that flies out the window if an unintended phone number is added to the chat.

Top Secret material should only be discussed/processed/stored in a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) and that is a hard and fast law. All of the participants are aware of the requirements, and there is no excuse for what they did. They're also aware of the requirement that all official correspondence is to be archived and preserved, so that means that they used the Signal app either to hide their activities from the record (possible) or out of convenience (probable). Either way, heads will roll and National Security Advisor Waltz will likely step down or be fired today.

Quote: chipolata @ 25th March 2025, 10:23 AM

It is shocking, although Trump famously values loyalty to him over things like intelligence and competence, so it's hardly surprising this idiocy is happening.

Mike Waltz (the guy who added the journalist to the chat) is a highly decorated former Ranger and Green Beret. He was a colonel with several medals awarded for valor in combat, so there's no way that he's unintelligent. He certainly made a glaringly bad mistake, and he and his career will pay for it shortly.

Quote: DaButt @ 25th March 2025, 1:37 PM

The Signal app offers end-to-end encryption and is generally regarded as secure, but all that flies out the window if an unintended phone number is added to the chat.

Top Secret material should only be discussed/processed/stored in a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) and that is a hard and fast law. All of the participants are aware of the requirements, and there is no excuse for what they did. They're also aware of the requirement that all official correspondence is to be archived and preserved, so that means that they used the Signal app either to hide their activities from the record (possible) or out of convenience (probable). Either way, heads will roll and National Security Advisor Waltz will likely step down or be fired today.

Mike Waltz (the guy who added the journalist to the chat) is a highly decorated former Ranger and Green Beret. He was a colonel with several medals awarded for valor in combat, so there's no way that he's unintelligent. He certainly made a glaringly bad mistake, and he and his career will pay for it shortly.

I doubt anything will happen to Waltz. I just saw Hesgeth on the news (what an unpleasant man) relentlessly attacking the journalist, as if it was all his fault. And Trump will just say or do something shocking to distract everyone from the boobery, the way he always does.

I'll take your word on Waltz, but generally speaking the characters I see at the upper levels of US government are deeply unimpressive (Vance, Kennedy Jnr, Gabbard).

Quote: chipolata @ 25th March 2025, 2:30 PM

I doubt anything will happen to Waltz.

I think he's a goner.

Quote: chipolata @ 25th March 2025, 2:30 PM

I'll take your word on Waltz, but generally speaking the characters I see at the upper levels of US government are deeply unimpressive (Vance, Kennedy Jnr, Gabbard).

Waltz was a full-bird colonel and spent 29 years in uniform. Vance spent four years in the USMC as an enlisted man, and he got out with the same rank that I did after four years: E-4. Gabbard is still in the military, and I wouldn't question her intelligence, either. What I do question (in every case) is how someone can be so "America first!" that they become pro-Russian. In my day, we were trained to kill Russians, and I haven't seen any actions on their part which would lead me to change my mind.

Kompromat? Naivete? Some sort of 5-dimensional chess match to counter China? Who freaking knows at this point? All I know is that it smells really bad to my admittedly untrained nose.

Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 25th March 2025, 10:45 AM

Yep it's true - the American sponsor certainly made me vote the way I did. I didn't know until today how I was influenced because back then, like all the rest of the 'leave voters I was a brainless idiot with no thoughts of my own.

Even intelligent people can be influenced by advertising.
I should know.
It paid the bills for 25 years.

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