I read the news today oh boy! Page 2,947

Quote: lofthouse @ 11th March 2025, 9:13 PM

And yes my posts on here are dripping with hate, we have an absolutely disgusting idiot in the White House bringing nothing but chaos and division to this world

And idiots in our own country who want to replicate his repellent brand of politics

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Or, for a less sensationalist take - The West is experiencing a hard counter shift to the right in politics, due to the social and economic turmoil caused by years of weak open border policies and reckless left wing ideology. Democracy in action, by people who care about their own country.

Quote: Steve Sunshine @ 11th March 2025, 10:48 PM

Yes I have been bemused by the stick Lofthouse seems to get
I often go back a few pages to see if something has incited it but can never really find anything
I think his posts can be really funny as well which is welcome on this comedy site

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Now THIS Steve i like

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Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 12th March 2025, 9:59 AM

Or, for a less sensationalist take - The West is experiencing a hard counter shift to the right in politics, due to the social and economic turmoil caused by years of weak open border policies and reckless left wing ideology. Democracy in action, by people who care about their own country.

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And still the poor get poorer and the rich get richer.
Even as US citizens watch their pension pots deteriorate due to the financial instability, those with millions, nay billions, are reaping the benefits.
How much do you think was made by those shorting the Dow these last few days?
Especially those on the inside?
Remember Crispin Odey?
Donated money to Pro-Leave groups that predicted a bright future.
Then bet against the pound and made over £200 million on Brexit morning.
Kerr-ching!
Right-wing Populism is essentially rich people getting poor people to look the other way.
"Oh, look! Kittens!"
Anything to distract from Ponzi scheme they're all operating.
Except they're not pointing at kittens.
They're pointing at immigrants, Muslims, and, more famously, Jews.
Other poor people.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 12th March 2025, 9:59 AM

Or, for a less sensationalist take - The West is experiencing a hard counter shift to the right in politics.

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Curiously, since Trump took office the Liberal party in Canada is having a resurgence, and in this country Farage's personal poll ratings have taken a dip, so maybe we're seeing the beginning of people realising that the Trumpian parties around the world don't have the answers they claim they to.

You'll be talking about the man that is involved in stopping the war and bringing peace.

Quote: Lazzard @ 12th March 2025, 10:21 AM

And still the poor get poorer and the rich get richer.
Even as US citizens watch their pension pots deteriorate due to the financial instability, those with millions, nay billions, are reaping the benefits.

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And that's capitalism for you. If you have a better system please tell us here, as no one else has come up with one yet.

Centrists and liberals often point to Scandinavian countries as good models to follow. Well liberal Sweden is in the middle of a crime and gang warfare crisis being carried out by all the male immigrants it let in, and guess what, it's now also seeing a surge in right wing parties as a result. Taxes also ridiculously high. Finland has very good public services but taxes and cost of living high, and most of the time it's too cold to do much. Norway is a stupidly expensive country to live in or visit, it's also incredibly dull and sterile. I'll stick with a lower taxed, free market capitalist system for now, thanks.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 12th March 2025, 10:38 AM

And that's capitalism for you. If you have a better system please tell us here, as no one else has come up with one yet.

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No.
That's feral capitalism.
Capitalism is like fire.
It can keep you warm or it can burn your house down.
It needs tempering - checks and balances to stop it doing what it naturally does - ie concentrate the capital into a few hands.
And the better system is one that engineers re-distribution of wealth.

Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 12th March 2025, 10:36 AM

You'll be talking about the man that is involved in stopping the war and bringing peace.

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Stephen your faith in Farage is either a wind up or an indication of your extreme gullibility. I am praying that it's a wind up otherwise you're going to need some sort of care package wrapped around you by Huddersfield Mental Health Unit. (Who also probably have a brass band)

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 12th March 2025, 10:38 AM

Centrists and liberals often point to Scandinavian countries as good models to follow. Well liberal Sweden is in the middle of a crime and gang warfare crisis being carried out by all the male immigrants it let in, and guess what, it's now also seeing a surge in right wing parties as a result. Taxes also ridiculously high. Finland has very good public services but taxes and cost of living high, and most of the time it's too cold to do much. Norway is a stupidly expensive country to live in or visit, it's also incredibly dull and sterile. .

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The countries you mention and are so dismissive of all do pretty well on the Happiness Index.

Quote: lofthouse @ 9th March 2025, 3:11 PM

How Spain's radically different approach to migration helped its economy soar

As immigration has increased, GDP has surged and unemployment has fallen to lowest level since 2008

This difference was laid bare late last year when Spain's prime minister gave a stark warning on migration. But unlike his counterparts in Italy, Germany or France, Pedro Sánchez was intent on rallying the country behind a markedly different approach.

Months on, his stance has seemingly been backed by economic data: Spain's economy expanded by 3.2% last year. This far outpaced Germany's 0.2% contraction, France's 1.1% growth and Italy's 0.5%. The figure was also ahead of Britain, whose total GDP grew by 0.9% last year and the Netherlands' 0.8% growth.

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The current prime minister is Pedro Sánchez, who took office on 2 June 2018.

He is the leader of the Socialist Workers' Party,

Not the "Let's make the rich , richer and demonise immigrants and dump the blame for our shortcomings on them Party"

Quote: Lazzard @ 12th March 2025, 11:00 AM

It needs tempering - checks and balances to stop it doing what it naturally does - ie concentrate the capital into a few hands.

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But it's the few hands that have the best inventions or make the best business deals. Take away their incentives for doing it and you'll have a weak 2nd world economy where everyone loses.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 12th March 2025, 12:53 PM

But it's the few hands that have the best inventions or make the best business deals. Take away their incentives for doing it and you'll have a weak 2nd world economy where everyone loses.

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A sure-fire recipe for appalling inequality.

Pmqs today

Reform MPs didn't ask any questions

Well, it would be difficult- seeing as NONE OF THEM could be bothered to even show their faces

Too busy squabbling like children no doubt...

Quote: Lazzard @ 12th March 2025, 1:23 PM

A sure-fire recipe for appalling inequality.

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Equality has been tried extensively by communist nations - and all it's proved to do is make everyone equally miserable. And the elite were spared being equal, causing even more resentment.

It's putting chains on the more able, strangling your country's economy. True equality is a Utopian pipe dream of the woolly headed, and impossible to achieve.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 12th March 2025, 2:46 PM

Equality has been tried extensively by communist nations - and all it's proved to do is make everyone equally miserable. And the elite were spared being equal, causing even more resentment.

It's putting chains on the more able, strangling your country's economy. True equality is a Utopian pipe dream of the woolly headed, and impossible to achieve.

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Of course you can't achieve absolute equality.
But you can strive for a more equal society.
And that requires manipulation of the system.