Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 9th February 2025, 1:03 PMThe hysterical left wing protesters who barrack his appearance every time are the ones causing much of the chaos, but Trump gets the blame.
That's the silliest thing I've heard in a long time.
"The Lefties made me do it!"
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 9th February 2025, 12:02 PMThe overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants are not drug dealers or criminals in the way you describe.
I didn't describe it that way, I said the crime rate has risen with the increase in illegal immigration, but I'll include legal migration. This is factually proven from police and conviction figures, just as it is here and in much of Europe.
About 70% of serious crime in UK overall I believe is caused by immigrants. And Rayner's going to give them all citizenship!
Quote: Lazzard @ 9th February 2025, 1:19 PMThat's the silliest thing I've heard in a long time.
"The Lefties made me do it!"
I meant more that they are purposely skewing his proposals and actions to be something far worse than they are. They are radical, but needed doing after thirty years of government policies drifting way to the left. Why do you think someone like Trump got elected, Twice!? š¤
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 9th February 2025, 1:21 PMAbout 70% of serious crime in UK overall I believe is caused by immigrants.
70% !!
I'd need to see your figures on that.
About 12% of UK prison population are immigrants.
Seeing as immigrants count for about 17% of the population , crime-wise, they clearly aren't pulling their weight.
Nice lot, these Labour MPs. If they're not punching their constituents in the street, they're hoping they die or get mown down by a heavy goods vehicle.
Quote: Lazzard @ 9th February 2025, 1:40 PM70% !!
I'd need to see your figures on that.
About 12% of UK prison population are immigrants.
Seeing as immigrants count for about 17% of the population , crime-wise, they clearly aren't pulling their weight.
Whatever, if they weren't here we wouldn't have that at all, and sleep easier in our beds if we knew the shadowy figure climbing in through the broken window was a nice upright English gent, carrying only a light-weight jemmy
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 9th February 2025, 1:03 PMHe also has a lot of opposition who like to makes things hard for him, which just antagonises him and causes much of the chaos. The hysterical left wing protesters who barrack his appearance every time are the ones causing much of the chaos, but Trump gets the blame.
Such nonsense. Particularly as Trump is receiving so little internal opposition currently.
In the UK, white people still account for well over 80% of arrests.
I love the way that any contrary point of view is never merely a difference of opinion, with which we'll have to agree to disagree, but is instead "nonsense". Full stop. While anyone who doesn't share the same view as someone else can only be a "dimwit".
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 9th February 2025, 7:54 PMI love the way that any contrary point of view is never merely a difference of opinion, with which we'll have to agree to disagree, but is instead "nonsense". Full stop. While anyone who doesn't share the same view as someone else can only be a "dimwit".
Quite right. I too get frustrated when the phrase 'woke nonsense ' is wheeled out to dismiss any opinion that a person doesn't share.
I'm rather wishing I'd struck on the word 'dimwit' a lot earlier.
It seems to be a very potent weapon.
I also love the way that when you quote facts, everyone treats them as opinions.
Quote: Lazzard @ 9th February 2025, 1:40 PM70% !!
I'd need to see your figures on that.
About 12% of UK prison population are immigrants.
Seeing as immigrants count for about 17% of the population , crime-wise, they clearly aren't pulling their weight.
Yes that was a keyboard malfunction, I've given it a good thrashing. I was trying to say about 70% of illegal unregistered immigrants here are thought to be involved in crime, just to get by. Who mentioned prison? There's a huge amount of crime that goes unpunished. If you included tax evasion, it's probably higher.
New survey out last month said nearly half a million undocumented illegal immigrants are living in London, 60% of the estimated 1 million illegal immigrants in Britain, but some experts believe both figures are underestimated. Telegraph 22ndJan.
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 9th February 2025, 7:13 PMSuch nonsense. Particularly as Trump is receiving so little internal opposition currently.
Yes he's receiving tons of it as usual, judges halting his executive orders and private court action to stop anything they don't like.
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 10th February 2025, 6:19 AMYes he's receiving tons of it as usual, judges halting his executive orders and private court action to stop anything they don't like.
It's what's known as checks and balances and it's an important part of American democracy.
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 9th February 2025, 1:44 PMNice lot, these Labour MPs. If they're not punching their constituents in the street, they're hoping they die or get mown down by a heavy goods vehicle.
I'll doubt you'll get much of a response as usual, he's not a Tory or Reform or Republican.
But as you've mentioned it I'll mention another Labour MP expenses claim that's being investigated by the police. And Rayner refusing to confirm if she said her leader "couldn't run a bath", just as he's been accused of being an HR manager rather than a leader by his own chosen chief of staff. Then a revelation that Starmer tried to stop the BBC revealing what the previous one earned.
That's apart from the nine postponed elections to stop Reform winning their council seats, or the continued efforts, already failed once, to make criticising Islam a crime while it's fine to keep saying what you want about Christianity and other religions. Or the new law to make free schools and academies follow their woke curriculum, for which Phillipson's rightly been branded a Marxist. Or the soon to happen lowering of the age to 16 to gerrymander more labour votes from supposed gullible teenagers.
Maybe they're just trying to take the heat of Reeves for killing business and crashing the economy, eh?
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 10th February 2025, 6:19 AMYes he's receiving tons of it as usual, judges halting his executive orders and private court action to stop anything they don't like.
He really isn't. The Supreme Court is letting him get away with murder. Most of his opposition has been bullied into submission. It really doesn't feel like the land of the free and the home of the brave at the moment.
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 9th February 2025, 7:54 PMI love the way that any contrary point of view is never merely a difference of opinion, with which we'll have to agree to disagree, but is instead "nonsense". Full stop. While anyone who doesn't share the same view as someone else can only be a "dimwit".
Sorry, but claiming Trump's opponents are basically responsible for his behaviour really is just nonsense. Only word for it.
Sorry but you keep changing what I've posted. I didn't mention anything about his behaviour. I said or meant that they are partly to blame for the ensuing 'chaos' he's accused of causing, following his executive decisions and actions. All hell breaks loose as they accuse him of being the devil incarnate, before they even look at the context of why they're being done.