I read the news today oh boy! Page 2,910

Quote: lofthouse @ 7th February 2025, 8:50 PM

President Donald Trump made big strides among Latino voters in the 2024 presidential election thanks in large part to the influence of evangelical Latino churches.

However, the Associated Press reports that many of these churches already feel "devastated and abandoned" by him after he signed an executive order authorizing Immigrations and Customers Enforcement to conduct immigration raids at schools and churches.

Although many Latino evangelicals believed that the Trump administration would only target people with criminal records for deportation, they've been surprised to learn that even some of their own pastors are now in the crosshairs.

Trump is just an ignorant senile old man

The REAL idiots - are fools like these people who were unbelievably stupid enough to fall for his bullshit

Church folk - wanting a felonious, xenophobic, racist, fraudulent sex criminal as their president

Serves them right, they should be utterly ashamed of themselves

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You've finally come to terms that he isn't a convicted rapist then, well done.

Still sticking up for a sexual predator and molester I see, well done

Your mother would be so proud she raised such a slimey creep

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 8th February 2025, 10:04 AM

... he's probably done more in one week in office than some presidents did in their whole term .

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I wonder if he'll get the trains to run on time...

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 8th February 2025, 10:04 AM

But you could easily construe that in a court of law to mean he instigated the solution to the end of the war on day one, which he did do. All that's needed is for it to eventually work, which everyone really knew would take time. No other ally has done anything else than pay billions of taxpayers' money to keep the war and loss of life going! Perspective is needed.

He's certainly delivering on carrying out his pre elections promises, he's probably done more in one week in office than some presidents did in their whole term (the late Jimmy Carter springs to mind).

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I don't think he's done anything to equal Camp David yet.

Yeah okay I'll give him that, yes, but it took most of his term to achieve and neither side were the threat to world stability that Russia is. Will you give Trump credit if his assistance to end the conflict takes less than 3 years?

Quote: lofthouse @ 8th February 2025, 10:38 AM

Still sticking up for a sexual predator and molester I see, well done

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No just sticking up for the facts. And you must acknowledge the true facts yourself or you wouldn't have edited your post. Well done.

Quote: Chris Hallam @ 8th February 2025, 11:16 AM

I don't think he's done anything to equal Camp David yet.

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Yes, I've been a bit worried about David lately

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 8th February 2025, 11:40 AM

Yeah okay I'll give him that, yes, but it took most of his term to achieve and neither side were the threat to world stability that Russia is. Will you give Trump credit if his assistance to end the conflict takes less than 3 years?

No just sticking up for the facts. And you must acknowledge the true facts yourself or you wouldn't have edited your post. Well done.

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If Starmer said publicly that all Palestinians should be forcibly removed from their own country and the land should be handed over to the USA to turn into some "Riviera" like resort- you would want him crucified

Trump says it and what do you say?

You just congratulate him on what an impressive start he has made in comparison to other past Presidents

Ethnic cleansing, sexual assault, fraud, racism, adultery, praising Hitler and his generals, calling war vets suckers and losers, dodging the Vietnam war with imaginary bone spurs - none of it a problem for people like you

Just - he's made a good start

Threatening the good people of Canada and Greenland and Panama
- fine, a good start

Wow

What a lovely decent caring chap you are

The arbiter of good taste speaks

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 8th February 2025, 11:40 AM

Yeah okay I'll give him that, yes, but it took most of his term to achieve and neither side were the threat to world stability that Russia is. Will you give Trump credit if his assistance to end the conflict takes less than 3 years?

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Carter achieved it in well under two years. I'll give Trump credit if he achieves peace against any time frame at all, assuming he doesn't simply capitulate entirely to Putin"s Russia.

Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 8th February 2025, 4:36 PM

The arbiter of good taste speaks

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Actually, it seems Donald himself is now the arbiter of good taste.
He wants to install himself as the Director of The Kennedy Centre for Performing Arts.
He's already fired half the Trustees because they don't share his vision of a "Golden Age in Arts & Culture"
Perhaps he'll organise an exhibition of the Art he doesn't approve of - much like his mentor.

Maybe, as long as none of the exhibits are by black people though

"Displays honoring women and people of color who served the National Security Agency were covered up by staff at a national museum over the weekend amid workers' rush to comply with President Donald Trump's dismantling of diversity, equity, and inclusion policies, an NSA representative told NPR."

Anyway he is far too busy letting terrorists out of jail so they can groom children online

Andrew Taake, a January 6 rioter who assaulted police officers at the Capitol and was pardoned by Donald Trump, has been arrested on charges of online solicitation of a minor for sex

Quote: lofthouse @ 8th February 2025, 1:13 PM

If Starmer said publicly that all Palestinians should be forcibly removed from their own country and the land should be handed over to the USA to turn into some "Riviera" like resort- you would want him crucified

Trump says it and what do you say?

You just congratulate him on what an impressive start he has made in comparison to other past Presidents

Ethnic cleansing, sexual assault, fraud, racism, adultery, praising Hitler and his generals, calling war vets suckers and losers, dodging the Vietnam war with imaginary bone spurs - none of it a problem for people like you

Just - he's made a good start

Threatening the good people of Canada and Greenland and Panama
- fine, a good start

Wow

What a lovely decent caring chap you are

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Just more sensationalist headline spouting with no jot of context to them at all, and projecting extremist fantasies against someone who dares to share a different view to yours.
1 Talk of expulsion of Gazans is nothing new at all, it's decades old, Trump hasn't invented it. I haven't expressed a view on it all, but like most people don't think it will happen, and I don't believe Trump thinks it will.

You take his political soundbites far too literally, bold political statements of intent can be used to pull back the imbalance from one extreme end of the left right spectrum towards the other or the centre. Trump and his voters think the world has moved too far left, and he's trying to realign what he can. Reagan did much the same in a very successful period for USA.

2 He hasn't threatened people, he's threatened to use trade tariffs to stop the flood of criminals with very harmful drugs which are ravaging his country, and so far the countries are complying by putting security on their borders he believes should already have been there. The incredibly lax previous Democratic govts let drug and gang crime reach dangerous new levels with no border security at all.
He wants illegal immigrants gone, where much of the new crime wave has come from, as do half of America who voted for him. This simply makes them all racists to you, without any knowledge of how life is some towns where hard drug use and crime has taken over.

3 Not sure about Canada, that's a surprise to me, but Greenland has been contested for decades by several countries, including us.

4 Panama Canal, it's been virtually sold to the Chinese for their massive commercial takeover of the world. They already have their commercial fingers in most of South America, which is an increasing threat to USAs and world economy. China are flooding the world with cheap products and now have many of their factories on USA's doorstep. They are also a Communist run country and allies to Russia & N Korea, and freely steal western info with their technology, so Trump is just less politically naive than you or Starmer seem to be.

As far as I understand it, Trump announced big tariffs on Mexico and Canada unless they did certain things. They then announced they were doing things that they had already committed to do, so the big tariffs never happened. All the posturing achieved was to piss off America's neighbours. It's classic Trump chaos and confusion.

I do like Trump's new White House pastor, though, and her belief that God rewards the most faithful with material wealth and success. I'm a pretty lax Christian but even I know that's really not the case at all.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 9th February 2025, 9:44 AM

Just more sensationalist headline spouting with no jot of context to them at all, and projecting extremist fantasies

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Trump is all about generating sensationalist headlines and extremist fantasies. That's the main thing he does.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 9th February 2025, 9:44 AM

1 Talk of expulsion of Gazans is nothing new at all, it's decades old, Trump hasn't invented it. I haven't expressed a view on it all, but like most people don't think it will happen, and I don't believe Trump thinks it will.

You take his political soundbites far too literally,

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It's not unreasonable to expect our leaders to present an accurate portrait of their intended course of action, especially on sensitive areas like this. Reagan would be horrified by most things Trump is doing, just as Bush I was and Bush II is.

Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 9th February 2025, 9:44 AM

Just more sensationalist headline spouting with no jot of context to them at all, and projecting extremist fantasies against someone who dares to share a different view to yours.
1 Talk of expulsion of Gazans is nothing new at all, it's decades old, Trump hasn't invented it. I haven't expressed a view on it all, but like most people don't think it will happen, and I don't believe Trump thinks it will.

You take his political soundbites far too literally, bold political statements of intent can be used to pull back the imbalance from one extreme end of the left right spectrum towards the other or the centre. Trump and his voters think the world has moved too far left, and he's trying to realign what he can. Reagan did much the same in a very successful period for USA.

2 He hasn't threatened people, he's threatened to use trade tariffs to stop the flood of criminals with very harmful drugs which are ravaging his country, and so far the countries are complying by putting security on their borders he believes should already have been there. The incredibly lax previous Democratic govts let drug and gang crime reach dangerous new levels with no border security at all.
He wants illegal immigrants gone, where much of the new crime wave has come from, as do half of America who voted for him. This simply makes them all racists to you, without any knowledge of how life is some towns where hard drug use and crime has taken over.

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The overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants are not drug dealers or criminals in the way you describe.

Quote: chipolata @ 9th February 2025, 10:01 AM

All the posturing achieved was to piss off America's neighbours. It's classic Trump chaos and confusion.

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I think that's mainly because the political system hasn't seen the likes of Trump's 'bold presidency style' to put it mildly. He said he was going to shake things up and that's what he's doing. He also has a lot of opposition who like to makes things hard for him, which just antagonises him and causes much of the chaos. The hysterical left wing protesters who barrack his appearance every time are the ones causing much of the chaos, but Trump gets the blame.