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Till Death Us Do Part (Film)

Till Death Us Do Part is a 1969 film based on the BBC television series Till Death Us Do Part. The film was directed by Norman Cohen and written by Johnny Speight, the creator of the television version. The film was considered successful enough at the box office to spawn a sequel, The Alf Garnett Saga in 1972.

Anyone else watch this film? I loved it. Pure comedy gold.

There must've been a thread on this already though I've searched. And it can't be "Till" but "Til" as an abbreviation of Until.

OK - I'm wrong there/

Anyway - yes - seen it loads of times including at the cinema when it first came out.

It's a very well made spin off movie, captures the age very well. The TV sitcom I found a bit dull tbh.

One of the best of the sitcom spinoffs. It's both a prequel and a sequel to the original black and white series. You're unlikely to see the sequel, The Alf Garnett saga, if the PC thought police have their way, though. And we're daft enough to let them.

The Till Death Us Do Part film was released in America as ALF N' FAMILY in 1972, but I doubt many here saw it, and it remains obscure Stateside.

Can anyone tell me why Anthony Booth and Una Stubbs did not appear in the 1972 feature film? They had a couple of shocking replacements taking their place who were much less likable.

Are you sure you're not getting confused?

I remember Alf and his son-in-law at the 1966 World Cup Final - or was that a different film?

There was a second film in 1972.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8y4igrUb8M

I had always read about a second film but some genius uploaded it to YouTube a few years back.

If and when you watch it, there is a continuity error big time.

The Garnetts live in their 2 up, 2 down house in London where Rita and Mike are seen to have a baby - as seen throughout the series set in the Garnetts house.

In this 1972 film, it follows on from the prequel where they are moved out of their house, into the block of flats in Essex. Well, Rita and Mike have their first born!

Thanks for the link. But I haven't watched a single episode of "Till Death..." yet. Does it make any sense for me to watch this movie?
I'm very curious because I understand this show is held in very high esteem on this site. And I know the German rip off called "Ein Herz und eine Seele" from the mid 70s which is brilliant.

Quote: Gordon Bennett @ 20th November 2015, 8:15 PM GMT

Thanks for the link. But I haven't watched a single episode of "Till Death..." yet. Does it make any sense for me to watch this movie?

Yes a lot of sense for a Britcom fan. The film is a very good filmic overview of the whole sitcom, as one episode was pretty much like the other tbh with Alf hogging it all with his views on everything.

In the film you get the whole lot with the great Alf Garnet played by the great Warren Mitchell, it's one of THE greatest sitcom characters and portrayals of all time, it sort of knocks you over. Decent film too, definitely one of the best Britcom movies. I'm putting it on this w/e in tribute.

In one sense, you could watch the first prequel as it is what it is - a prequel.

But to appreciate the prequel, you should watch the series - which unfortunately is not available for the whole series. You can watch many on YouTube or buy the two DVDs that are available.

It's a class comedy and you must watch it with an open-mind because the relaxation around racism and bigotry is pretty wild. The writer did this with a view to mock casual racism carried out in the 60s/70s.

Furthermore, Warren Mitchell's acting in this is sheer class.

Thanks Alfred & Tommy. Just to make sure: The 1972 movie (Tommy's link) is NOT a prequel, so I can watch it without having seen the original show, am I right? So it could be a good starting point for me.

Quote: Tommy Griff @ 22nd November 2015, 12:16 AM GMT

...you must watch it with an open-mind because the relaxation around racism and bigotry is pretty wild. The writer did this with a view to mock casual racism carried out in the 60s/70s.

Interestingly, the German rip off "Ein Herz und eine Seele" is regarded as a popular classic by the critics and the mainstream audience alike and doesn't cause any controversy, AFAIK. It gets regularly repeated on German television. Normally the Germans are very cautious about these things because of their past but this show isn't on a blacklist or something despite the main character Alfred Tetzlaff being portrayed as a right wing racist and anti socialist.
One of the rare occasions where the Germans show a real sense of humour and treat satire as what it is.

Ah I see - always interesting to hear of how other countries perceive the show and how they re-produce them.

I would watch, in no particular order, the series. I say no particular order because as I said, they only released a handful of episodes on video and DVD. There's a load more you can find on YouTube, but still, not all episodes.

Then I would watch the first film (prequel):

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Followed by the second film.

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The first episode I ever watched, and I was only about 5 at the time (great parenting!), was an episode called 'Strikes and Blackouts'. Classic.

FWIW , I doubt anyone will read this, the film and the series have faded from memory and covid has knocked out many older folk (the Idea of Garnett saying the Govt is trying to kill old folk off with engineered diseases sounds like it could be a plot line on the tv series).
Anyway I have acquired a annotated copy of the script with some camera directions, re-writes, extras names and other things . I dont really want it and would sell for charity if anyone interested

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