I blieve it was Farage's 8th attempt, if you fling enough mud ...
What's encouraging is that the "Caring Party" i.e. Lib Dems have had the biggest percentage swing and surprise of them all. Let's hope Labour look at their polocy of increasing Carers allowance, as caring people need to live too.
Thank f**k that's all over. Now perhaps we can get back to a normal life on the television and no boring mudslinging on the news.
Whatever Sir Grey decides for this country it will make f**k-all difference as they are all in it to fill their own pockets, slap each other on the back and give themselves a free meal ticket to the looney bin that is the House of Lards.
But I expect the likes of the Beeb will drone on about it with their boring tit pundits for the next fortnight
Glad to say we ousted the sitting Tory in North Herefordshire.
Happy to have lent the greens my vote.
And well done Reform for splitting the vote!
Exactly, no nirvana, just another day.
The swamp has been drained......
A good day for Labour and for Britain.
Thank God, the I'm Not Racist But...Party didn't break through!
Farewell to one of the worst governments we've ever had.
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 5th July 2024, 10:04 AMFarewell to one of the worst governments we've ever had.
The next few weeks/months in Tory-land will be compulsive viewing.
Blood-bath or cold shower?
Only time will tell.
The stories of Reform politicians spouting poisonous crap about lazy black people and immigrants who need shooting and how Hitler was actually not that bad and how Putin has a point and how gay men are all "nonces" will go on and on and on...
Hopefully they will fade away like their cousins the BNP
Quote: lofthouse @ 5th July 2024, 10:47 AMThe stories of Reform politicians spouting poisonous crap about lazy black people and immigrants who need shooting and how Hitler was actually not that bad and how Putin has a point and how gay men are all "nonces" will go on and on and on...
Hopefully they will fade away like their cousins the BNP
I don't know.
But it'll be hard to keep the same level of anger and seething resentment going for five years.
They were promised dozens of seats - they got four.
And remember, a lot of Reform voters were people who'd disengaged from politics - they might just disengage again.
A lot of it depends on whether the Cons split, lurch further to the Right en masse, or just give NF the cold shoulder
Reform votes were largely just a protest vote against the tories , by people who will never ever vote Labour in their lives under any circumstances
That's the only purpose that joke of a party serves
Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 5th July 2024, 9:22 AMThank f**k that's all over. Now perhaps we can get back to a normal life on the television
Spare a thought for those of us who hate sport even more than politics, we've still got the f**ken football, tennis and motor car racing to endure! At this rate I may have to do something drastic like 'read' a 'book'!
Quote: lofthouse @ 4th July 2024, 2:00 PMStarmer has transformed an unelectable Labour party that was on its knees and won them power (in a few hours)
Thing is, that's not true.
Yes, he's changed the party into a more right-wing one, but that's not why he won. Starmer got 33.9% of the vote and 9.7m actual votes - that's fewer votes than Corbyn got in 2019 and only a vote percentage increase of 1.8%.
Starmer won because the Conservative vote fell 19.8% to 23.7%
Both Corbyn's results would have been good enough to beat Sunak, as would even Ed Milliband's in 2015.
Correspondingly Starmer would not have beaten Boris or Teresa May with this vote share.
2015 Miliband, 9.3million votes 30.4% vote share
2017 Corbyn, 12.9million votes 40% vote share
2019 Corbyn, 10.3million votes 32.1% vote share
2024 Starmer, 9.7million votes 33.9% vote share
Tory MP James Daly who reported Angela Rayner to the police was voted out and lost his seat
Angela Rayner on the other hand is now the Deputy Prime Minister
Karma motherf**r
Karma š
Quote: Godot Taxis @ 5th July 2024, 7:58 PMThing is, that's not true.
Yes, he's changed the party into a more right-wing one, but that's not why he won. Starmer got 33.9% of the vote and 9.7m actual votes - that's fewer votes than Corbyn got in 2019 and only a vote percentage increase of 1.8%.
Starmer won because the Conservative vote fell 19.8% to 23.7%
Both Corbyn's results would have been good enough to beat Sunak, as would even Ed Milliband's in 2015.
Correspondingly Starmer would not have beaten Boris or Teresa May with this vote share.
2015 Miliband, 9.3million votes 30.4% vote share
2017 Corbyn, 12.9million votes 40% vote share
2019 Corbyn, 10.3million votes 32.1% vote share
2024 Starmer, 9.7million votes 33.9% vote share
Still, massive majority and all that.
Corbyn fought two elections that were essentially two horse races - hence a much larger vote share
This election was completely different- Lib Dems did remarkably well seats wise, Reform had a large vote share, and there was mass tactical voting by Labour voters who didn't want to waste their votes in constituencies that Labour couldn't win - so lent their votes elsewhere, like Lazzard
Vote share in fptp Is irrelevant, its seats that matter
Labour got f**kin 400 plus and beat the shit out of the Tories
Corbyn is a f**king loser and only cares about himself and his stupid ego
Starmer on the other hand is the Prime Minister - a winner
He transformed the party and took power
Corbyn virtually destroyed the party and was one of the worst Labour leaders in history