Quote: lofthouse @ 30th November 2023, 11:04 AM"Referring to Johnson, it added...
What added? Added to what?
As it stands your post makes no sense at all. This is the trouble with cutting & pasting selected passages.
I read the news today oh boy! Page 2,709
Do you want me to print hours of testimony from the inquiry ffs?
The disgraceful former prime minister called the workers of this country "malingering workshy people"
Is that clear enough?
Quote: lofthouse @ 30th November 2023, 1:37 PMThe disgraceful former prime minister called the workers of this country "malingering workshy people"
I know plenty of people (Americans) who were exactly that during the ill-advised lockdowns, closures, and ridiculous government spending. I have to assume that it was the same in the UK.
Quote: lofthouse @ 30th November 2023, 1:37 PMDo you want me to print hours of testimony from the inquiry ffs?
The disgraceful former prime minister called the workers of this country "malingering workshy people"
Is that clear enough?
My supposed "malingering workshy" arse worked all through the pandemic. Extra extra hours for a few months at first due to the complete upheaval of workload and processes (had to fast jump to the digital paperless way - which wasn't complete - which wasn't meant to happen for months). It was f**king stressful. Johnson can shove his comments.
Quote: lofthouse @ 30th November 2023, 1:37 PMDo you want me to print hours of testimony from the inquiry ffs?
The disgraceful former prime minister called the workers of this country "malingering workshy people"
Is that clear enough?
No, it's not. Because we have no idea who you are telling us has alleged it, whether that person can be trusted or what axe they had to grind. As it stands it's completely unsubstantiated nonsense.
Quote: Feeoree @ 30th November 2023, 2:39 PMMy supposed "malingering workshy" arse worked all through the pandemic.
Many people did - especially the overwhelmed medical community, but many people took advantage of the situation. It's probably safe to assume that normally hard workers worked even harder, while those who tended to slack off became even slacker. I saw it with my own eyes.
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 30th November 2023, 2:43 PMNo, it's not. Because we have no idea who you are telling us has alleged it, whether that person can be trusted or what axe they had to grind. As it stands it's completely unsubstantiated nonsense.
Then stop being a workshy malingerer and find out for yourself!
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Quote: Billy Bunter @ 30th November 2023, 2:43 PMNo, it's not. Because we have no idea who you are telling us has alleged it, whether that person can be trusted or what axe they had to grind. As it stands it's completely unsubstantiated nonsense.
Patrick Valance's notes/entries at the time. Basically half corroborated by Sajid Javid at the inquiry: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/29/rishi-sunak-pushed-hard-for-lifting-of-covid-rules-inquiry-hears
Javid: "The prime minister in these meetings often said things that were hard to determine what he actually thought versus a joke," he said. "Even when you were discussing something as important as this."
Quote: Feeoree @ 30th November 2023, 2:53 PMPatrick Valance's notes/entries at the time. Basically half corroborated by Sajid Javid at the inquiry: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/29/rishi-sunak-pushed-hard-for-lifting-of-covid-rules-inquiry-hears
Javid: "The prime minister in these meetings often said things that were hard to determine what he actually thought versus a joke," he said. "Even when you were discussing something as important as this."
Ok, thanks. Then that should have been made clear in the original post. And, having read the link, to be fair, Johnson did not (allegedly) call all
Quote: lofthouse @ 30th November 2023, 1:37 PMthe workers of this country "malingering workshy people"
as is suggested. What he supposedly said was "They need to come back to work. All the malingering workshy people".
That's the same difference as saying "all cowboys are men" and "all men are cowboys".
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 30th November 2023, 3:16 PMOk, thanks. Then that should have been made clear in the original post. And, having read the link, to be fair, Johnson did not (allegedly) call all
as is suggested. What he supposedly said was "They need to come back to work. All the malingering workshy people".
That's the same difference as saying "all cowboys are men" and "all men are cowboys".
Perhaps, but their whole rhetoric at the time was that those working from home are lazy or "have had too many days off" during their big push for people to return to the office after lockdowns were finally over and gone.
Matt Hancock, charged with protecting the nation's health, knew "Eat Out to Help Out" was causing a spike in infections, and "kept it out of the news" even though "it was serious".
Bloody stupid idea that wasn't cleared with the experts first
Then , big shocker, it lead to more infections
Solution? Don't let anybody find out we have dropped a massive bollock, cover it up quick
F**king clueless behaviour, bordering on criminal
Quote: lofthouse @ 30th November 2023, 3:58 PMBilly would say "ahh yes but thats not really what he was suggesting, what he ACTUALLY meant to say was....."
More a question of the boot being on the other foot I would say. I accurately quoted what it is alleged he actually said. It is you who are putting your interpretation on it.
But I have never sought to defend Johnson. Far too left of centre for me. Despite his rhetoric (which never actually came to anything). And too weak in standing up to the lockdown zealots.
Quote: lofthouse @ 30th November 2023, 5:09 PMMatt Hancock, charged with protecting the nation's health, knew "Eat Out to Help Out" was causing a spike in infections, and "kept it out of the news" even though "it was serious".
Bloody stupid idea that wasn't cleared with the experts first
Then , big shocker, it lead to more infections
Solution? Don't let anybody find out we have dropped a massive bollock, cover it up quick
F**king clueless behaviour, bordering on criminal
I asked you before:
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 23rd November 2023, 11:42 AMHow many extra deaths were there during the running of the scheme? How many of those had actually taken part in the scheme? How many of those were non-covid related (eg natural causes other than covid, accidents)? Only once we consider those figures can we decide on its stupidity or otherwise. And then you'd have to take into account those it helped/saved (eg mental health-wise after months of being locked up in their own homes).
I'm still awaiting the evidence.
What exactly will this inquiry achieve?
It'll give some posters here a warm feeling.
Doesn't that Omid Scobie have the most slapable of faces? Has he started shaving yet?