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Quote: Lazzard @ 27th November 2023, 4:38 PM

This new double-spacing lark is not giving your words quite the gravitas you think it is, SG
Hunt & violently arrest? Don't make me laugh.
He was asked to move on under a Section 35 Dispersal Order - the same thing used to move Steve Bray on (didn't hear any compliants from you about that).
But unlike Steve - he wouldn't move on, despite the old bill spending f**king ages patiently explaining it to him (unlike some, I did watch the whole video).
They began to escort him and he resisted at which point he was frog-marched off.
The police probably took a little more pleasure in this than they should have done - but then Tommy's boys had been chucking bottles and screaming "Scum" at them just a fortnight before.
Plod never forget.

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When a citizen is given a direction by police that they consider unfair they are likely to dig their heels in and refuse. My issue is if the police were correct in applying the order in this situation. They have the power to issue the dispersal order if they have reason to suspect not doing so will lead to crime but it doesn't seem justified and gives more attention to someone the police should be trying to keep low key. They could have observed him for a while and watched who he associates with and asked him to move on at a more discreet moment like walking down a narrow street. I'm not defending Robinson I'm just questioning what intelligence the police had or if they just saw it as a good opportunity to get in his face. I would hope a decision like that comes from an inspector or above and there's criteria to fulfil and not on a whim by officers out to settle a score.

Quote: Definitely Tarby @ 27th November 2023, 9:14 PM

When a citizen is given a direction by police that they consider unfair they are likely to dig their heels in and refuse. My issue is if the police were correct in applying the order in this situation. They have the power to issue the dispersal order if they have reason to suspect not doing so will lead to crime but it doesn't seem justified and gives more attention to someone the police should be trying to keep low key. They could have observed him for a while and watched who he associates with and asked him to move on at a more discreet moment like walking down a narrow street. I'm not defending Robinson I'm just questioning what intelligence the police had or if they just saw it as a good opportunity to get in his face. I would hope a decision like that comes from an inspector or above and there's criteria to fulfil and not on a whim by officers out to settle a score.

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Robinson is a simply a puppet with hidden strings, his owners would rather he be bundled around by the police than actually stating his polices because he talks like Hitler. That's why his owners get him to provide the photos they can post blank around the world giving other right wing nutters the chance to make memes or embed these images to lend gravitas to their narrative that everyone is against everyone else thus extending the Warren of rabbit holes.
Immigration is broke but so is everything else and that puts us all on fertile ground for populists of every stripe. This is mostly being fanned by social media so you have to ask yourself how much the Chinese Russians and Elon Musk et al are doing to help it along? It suits their agenda to have the bulk of western civilisation arguing day and night about mostly made up stories and faux outrage.
We are being fed and reacting to crap around the clock half wits claiming to have easy answers to complex issues, basically blame it all on one group and annihilate them!

I, do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of constable with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, and that I will uphold fundamental human rights and accord equal respect to all people, according to law.

Plod never forget eh. The above is the oath they swear by.

They forgot to add 'when it suits.

And by the way - I am no fan of TR, he's far too right for even me.
But I am a believer in fairness no matter who.
To arrest someone because you don't like them and then, while arrested hold their head up to pepper spray them in the face at close range is not policing.
Pepper spray is a weapon to stop injury and harm from a possible attack. His hands were cuffed behind his back.

If you think that was fair and right - you are as bad as them.

Yep more evidence if it was needed that police jump at the chance to stamp on right wing 'hate crime' in front of the cameras yet pusseyfoot around the far larger group of left wing extremists for fear of being called racist. They are losing credibility by the day.

They will have cautioned, arrested and moved on thousands of people over the year, if you just focus on far right Tommy, of course it will look like they're picking on Tommy.

Looks like sunaks latest strategy to claw back some support is by standing up to the Greeks over-them f**king marbles

I thinks he's lost his bloody marbles

I bet he is itching for that wazzock Argentina have just elected to start sabre rattling about the Falklands too

(that's two things we have stolen from other countries BTW)

That all sounds like PR. The Falklands swung the vote back for Maggie - shame they've not had any new ideas since then.

Yeah, quick change the subject. We didn't like the truth. We never do.

Quote: Firkin @ 27th November 2023, 4:28 PM

Inciting violence is a crime and he's got previous for that. Surly Policing should be about crime prevention ?

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We don't want Surly policing. We want fair policing.

Quote: lofthouse @ 27th November 2023, 4:35 PM

If this happened to a decent law abiding citizen I could maybe be bothered

As the person in question is a hate filled, brain dead , knuckle dragging twat - meh

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What about the hate filled "Preachers" though?

Quote: lofthouse @ 28th November 2023, 3:12 PM

I bet he is itching for that wazzock Argentina have just elected to start sabre rattling about the Falklands too

(that's two things we have stolen from other countries BTW)

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Weren't the Falklands first settled by Europeans?

Quote: DaButt @ 28th November 2023, 4:28 PM

Weren't the Falklands first settled by Europeans?

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lofty was never one to let facts get in the way of his own fiction

Yes but Britain stole the islands from Argentina in 1833

Argentine settlers were kicked off and replaced by people from Britain and Gibraltar

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 28th November 2023, 4:53 PM

lofty was never one to let facts get in the way of his own fiction

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Sadly our countries history of grabbing land that doesn't belong to us by any means necessary is not fiction

Nice one Squirrel

Quote: lofthouse @ 28th November 2023, 4:54 PM

Yes but Britain stole the islands from Argentina in 1833

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So it sounds like somewhere in between, the Argentinians stole the islands from the British?

Quote: DaButt @ 28th November 2023, 4:28 PM

Weren't the Falklands first settled by Europeans?

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If we go back far enough, mankind began in Africa so maybe we should given them back ... Canada or something ?