Hildegard
Saturday 28th October 2023 4:52pm [Edited]
Cornwall
140 posts
Quote: Definitely Tarby @ 28th October 2023, 3:14 PM
It seems rather counter-productive to put time and effort in to training and experience only to alienate yourself from people in the industry who can open doors. Most actors and writers have worked with people they despise but bite their tongue because doing so is a means to an end. Being passionate about something is admirable but maybe it's better to keep that kind of discussion in a social setting with your army of trans friends and not with people in the industry. I can see how the subject of Linehan would come up but if it was me I would treat it like a job interview. It could be a way of seeing what kind of personality someone has and has nothing to do with their personal views on the subject.
It wasn't a discussion about Linehan, it was a video posted by a casting director that had been edited to give false information. I was actually trying to be helpful by pointing out that the video wasn't accurate. I didn't know the casting director was anti-women and knew what he was doing. Even if that wasn't the scenario, I find it really distasteful that people shouldn't speak out about injustice for fear of not getting work. Take that to its furthest conclusion and that's how the holocaust happened. If you saw someone post a video that lied about trans people would you point it out or would you stay quiet?
Being accused of 'shitting on the soul of someone's trans child' doesn't sound very supportive and your views on the trans community is blinkered to put it politely. Asking me to evidence how the trans community is marginalised is beyond belief when there are cases of violence and discrimination towards them every day around the world and it's getting worse. I'm sure you're the toast of your trans friends when you tell them that gender isn't real and trans people are not marginalised and then enter a monologue about the whole blue is for boys pink is for girls thing.
I was accused of 'shitting on the soul of someone's trans child' purely because I don't believe that humans can change sex. I'd actually been very supportive of the woman and made it clear that it was none of my business how she brings up her child. She is, however, prone to histrionics.
Could you give me some evidence of the increasing attacks on trans people please? Statistics show that trans is the safest demographic in the UK so I'd be really interested in seeing if/how that's changed so I can make sure I'm up to date.
You still haven't said what you think gender is. The trans people I know are respectful of my views, just as I'm respectful of theirs. They're not demanding to have access to all women's sex segregated spaces though, they're very aware they haven't changed sex and that their experiences and needs are very different to that of women.
I don't hate Graham Linehan I just think he's been very foolish with his approach to what is a very sensitive subject to those involved in it. It's not like there's an epidemic of men who are asking to be treated as female just so they can gain access to women only facilities.
There are enough to have an impact on women's safety. In hospitals and in prisons there have been rapes. And women have lost opportunities and positions to men who claim to be women, despite there being specific opportunities for trans people to ensure they're represented. I have to say I find *your* view on this incredibly blinkered and it would be good to know what you're basing your opinion on.
There are cases of that but it's so insignificant it didn't need Linehan to shout from the rooftops on Twitter and it speaks volumes that he got him self permanently banned from a platform where basically anything goes.
That's not strictly true. There was a very active TRA element backstage at Twitter, people were getting perma bans just for stating they don't believe humans can change sex or that they supported JK Rowling. That's changed since Elon Musk took over. Linehan is also critical of the way children are being fast racked onto a medical route for transition. It's extremely lucrative for drug companies to put children on puberty blockers but research is coming out that shows they have irreversible effects. People who have now reached adulthood are finding that they can't orgasm, are infertile and are suffering a host of irreversible problems. Even the NHS is expressing concern about puberty blockers and their long term effects. Puberty blockers are the same drugs that are used for testicular cancer and the drugs that are used to chemically castrate sexually violent men. One of Linehan's main concerns is that these drugs are being given to children before any long-term studies have been done on their safety.
Recording gender instead of sex is also detrimental to medical science and statistics gathering. Women and men respond differently to some disease and illness. Heart attacks, for example. Skewing that research will lead to diagnoses being missed in both men and women. It also affects the crime statistics. Rape is now being recorded as being committed by women. In years to come, people will wonder why there was a serious spike in female rapists and paedophiles.
He wasn't banned because of an outcry he was banned because he broke board rules and then compounded it by contacting individuals directly. He could have been going through a crisis or any number of personal reasons for doing what he did but there's no denying that what he did was unhelpful and damaging.
I disagree. Lots of women have found it extremely supportive and it's enabled more men to speak out too.
I would really like you to clarify where your information comes from, and especially would like a clarification on what you think gender is.
Edit to add: How far do you go with your "keep quiet so you don't lose work" opinion? Should the staff who get events cancelled because they don't agree with the speaker/performer keep quiet? If not, why not?
