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Quote: Definitely Tarby @ 23rd October 2023, 4:45 PM

I don't know what's worse, watching pirated movies or happily admitting to it with the reasoning that the studio fat cats have enough money It's a criminal offence which hits the pocket of the film crew and extras more than anyone so I would rather pay £5 to rent a movie than steal it. Stealing food is one thing but stealing something for pleasure makes no sense to me. I've been offered copies of Cubase before which is music software that costs £400+ but I didn't because I couldn't face being reminded I tea leafed it every time it loads up. Not only that but the software needs to be registered to qualify for technical support and updates so if I was going to use it I would save up and obtain it the right/legal way. I don't think anyone would boast about obtaining a hooky copy of an OFAH boxset and I don't see how a movie is any different. We have a choice and in the wise words of Judge Judy...."If you eat the steak....."

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But I don't own it to resell or something, to profit from - it was on a memory stick, I watched it and now it does not exist, because I wiped it, ready for the next one. 😎

If what you do keeps your conscience clear, then so be it. I can't see paying out £5 for something that no longer exists and I have now no interest in.

And who the F is Judge Judy? Some money grabbing American lawyer I expect, who makes a mint making programmes on TV for the gullible.

Quote: lofthouse @ 23rd October 2023, 5:03 PM

I bloody love watching pirate videos me

Treasure Island, Pirates of the Caribbean

Yaaar 🏴‍☠️ 🦜

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Oooahhh, we'll be a'sailin' on the noon-tide, Jim lad, and tonight's yorn turn in the barrel, ooooahhhh!

Wooh! Who's getting all defensive. Just face up to the truth. You're going to jail!

Quote: Definitely Tarby @ 23rd October 2023, 4:45 PM

I don't think anyone would boast about obtaining a hooky copy of an OFAH boxset

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I wouldn't waste my bandwidth.

Neither would I pass over my hard-earned so the BBC can profit from a programme about people who gleefully attempt to continually fleece the system

Quote: Chappers @ 23rd October 2023, 7:06 PM

You're going to jail!

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Can I still collect £200?

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If you pay for a VPN (Virtual private network) you can access TV channels from all over the world.
The TV channels are 'free to air so I'm sure it's not piracy - maybe a grey area as the countries only want people in that country to watch their programs.

It's worth watching USA channels just for the adverts. Especially as they don't have an NHS. Any drug ad - even for a simple cold cure will make outlandish claims.
Then at the end, a male voice-over will state all the possible consequences of taking it but at such a great speed, it's impossible to understand.

It's one of those crimes where the individual effect of your 'misdemeanour' seems so small as to be hardly worth getting into a tizzy a bout.
Bit like chucking a single sweet wrapper out of your car window.
But the money that's lost to piracy is quite significant - and some of that money would have ended up in the pockets of the creatives involved (not enough - but that's another matter).
That's why I don't do it.

I have an enormous collection of DVDs, and am pretty sure that 99% of them are legitimate purchases with odd rip-offs of say Max Miller films that are not available from genuine suppliers (well, not as far as I can see), so feel no guilt about getting my son to download odd films for free that I would like to see and will never watch again.
Classics such as "Gone With The Wind" and "Dr Zhivago" I could easily record from the TV or buy a rip off copy for posterity, but with those I am quite happy to pay a premium for the best copy available.

I feel I have paid my dues.

Ironically, with those older films all the money goes to large faceless corporations - as all royalties etc etc have long been bought out.
It's on newer material where some money might be going (or not going) to the creatives involved.

Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 24th October 2023, 10:44 AM

I have an enormous collection of DVDs, and am pretty sure that 99% of them are legitimate purchases with odd rip-offs of say Max Miller films that are not available from genuine suppliers (well, not as far as I can see), so feel no guilt about getting my son to download odd films for free that I would like to see and will never watch again.
Classics such as "Gone With The Wind" and "Dr Zhivago" I could easily record from the TV or buy a rip off copy for posterity, but with those I am quite happy to pay a premium for the best copy available.

I feel I have paid my dues.

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I'm not trying to labour the point Herc but no amount of dues paid justify the illegalness of watching a pirated movie especially one that was only released last year. Older film knockoffs are one thing but this is a 2022 title and FACT are not to be underestimated. They don't just target the distributors and you run the risk of answering the door to a customs officer with a search warrant. Not trying to be overdramatic it does happen.

There's something wrong with the whole system when I can download a new movie for free in two or three minutes, but "owning" a physical copy costs $40 - and it forces me to sit through advertisements and previews of other products that the studios are hawking. An "all-you-can-eat" model like Spotify or Apple Music seems like the only answer.

You'd think the various industries would be happy if the average person saw one movie in the theater each month, bought one album each month, bought one book each month, and paid for one streaming television service each month. Call it $100 or $150 monthly, and find a way to distribute the money to the creators. I'd gladly pay $150 each month if I could have access to any book, album, movie, show, or live television channel, at any time or place. I'd love to get rid of my old discs and tapes (I'm too sentimental about vinyl albums) and not have to keep adding spinning drives to my home theater setup. But as long as it's cheaper and easier to do things the unethical way, people are going to choose the unethical way.

Quote: Definitely Tarby @ 24th October 2023, 7:11 PM

I'm not trying to labour the point Herc .

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And I can see your point, of course; but quote DB........................

Quote: DaButt @ 24th October 2023, 10:22 PM

. But as long as it's cheaper and easier to do things the unethical way, people are going to choose the unethical way.

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I remember years ago, if you went to a car boot sale, someone was always selling pirated VHS films.
They were either a copy of a copy and were so grainy and fuzzy as to be unwatchable.
Or laughably, filmed by someone sat in the cinema theater with his Hi 8 camcorder.
People walking in front of the screen, coughing, audience laughter and rustling of sweetie papers.

Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 25th October 2023, 8:47 AM

I remember years ago, if you went to a car boot sale, someone was always selling pirated VHS films.
They were either a copy of a copy and were so grainy and fuzzy as to be unwatchable.
Or laughably, filmed by someone sat in the cinema theater with his Hi 8 camcorder.
People walking in front of the screen, coughing, audience laughter and rustling of sweetie papers.

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Yes, those ones filmed by someone in a cinema are hysterical and I'm amazed that (1) anyone would have the balls to do and (2) that no one reported them - never bought one myself; BUT many years ago, when we bought our first CD player, we were at a street market in St. Albans and were excited to buy a selection of cheap CDs, on of which was a Spanish recording of Carmen, and when we played it back, it started off OK, but then when the cast started to move about on the stage you could hear their flamenco type shoes clonk-clonking on the floorboards. We did laugh.

50th Anniversary of one of the greatest films ever made, The Wicker Man and there's lots of interesting stuff on the Beeb website about it. It should have been longer apparently but some reels went missing on the way to post production in London, and Christopher Lee thought this was some of the best material and would've made it even better. Rightly asserted as one of the most ground breaking horror films of all, there have been dozens if not hundreds of loose American copies since its days as a top rental video.

Plenty more goodies on it I've yet to consume but watched it again the other night for the umpteenth time, and was as glued as ever to the screen, it seems to have lost none of its freshness. It is a gripping masterpiece of storytelling with a performance from Edward Woodward 'good' would not be anywhere near enough praise for. Great prog/folk rock soundtrack too, which they have something about with fans Radcliffe & Maconie I'll listen to later.

The Wicker Man is a fantastic film. Creepy as hell, and Britt Ekland's dance is still quite something.

1973 was a great year for classic horror movies, with The Exorcist and Don't Look Now also coming out.