Quote: lofthouse @ 1st December 2022, 7:00 PMBrexit has added almost £6 billion to UK food bills over the past two years, new research has found.
Household food bills are up six per cent since the UK's formal departure from the European Union, a study from the London School of Economics' Centre for Economic Performance (CEP) revealed.
Food prices in the United States have increased by an eye-watering amount, so I'm not sure that it can all be blamed on Brexit.
Quote: lofthouse @ 1st December 2022, 7:00 PMBrexit has added almost £6 billion to UK food bills over the past two years, new research has found.
Household food bills are up six per cent since the UK's formal departure from the European Union, a study from the London School of Economics' Centre for Economic Performance (CEP) revealed.
Low-income households have been hardest hit by the uptick in costs, with Brexit-induced price rises adding 1.1 per cent to their total cost of living - more than the 0.7 per cent increase felt by the wealthiest decile of households.
In all, UK consumers paid £5.8 billion in additional food costs over the two years.
Commenting on the findings, Jacob Rees-Mogg - who previously said we will get cheaper food and clothing outside of the EU - argued that Brits will avoid a 2 per cent extra cost to fish fingers thanks to Brexit, as well as bagging savings on some cheeses....
Like he even knows what a f**king fish finger is!
The above is useless information without comparisons with the effect of cost of living rises in the EU countries.
The UK economy was 90% as strong as the German economy was in 2016. Now it is less than 70% as strong.
The German economy is growing strongly. The French, American, Italian and Spanish economies are all currently growing. The UK economy is sliding into recession. The French economy has overtaken the UK to become the second largest European economy.
Economists agree the UK economy has now shrunk by around 4% as a direct result of Brexit.
As of November 2022, polls indicate 53 percent of people in Great Britain thought that it was wrong to leave the European Union, compared with 34 percent who thought it was the right decision.
Many pro-Brexit campaigners in 2016 agreed we would take a severe economic hit if we left. And now it's clearly happening.
Germany was hit by a fall in exports in October 2022 for the second month in a row, reports the German federal statistics agency Destatis
Of course Brexit isn't the main problem.
Brexit is like a stone in your shoe when you're running away from a tiger.
It's not the main problem - but it's not exactly helping.
It also means the tiger will undoubtedly catch you first.
And - if it wasn't for the tiger chasing you - you'd probably have come to the conclusion by now that putting a stone in your shoe was a pretty piss-poor idea in the first place.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 2nd December 2022, 10:33 AMGermany was hit by a fall in exports in October 2022 for the second month in a row, reports the German federal statistics agency Destatis
German growth grew in the third quarter. It fell here.
All the evidence so far suggests Brexit has been a big mistake. We should not be ashamed to admit it.
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 2nd December 2022, 10:57 AMGerman growth grew in the third quarter. It fell here.
All the evidence so far suggests Brexit has been a big mistake. We should not be ashamed to admit it.
Some people don't like being told "I told you so" and will never ever admit it no matter how much of a shit show it turns into
Anyway as long as "we aren't being told what to do by Johnny Foreigner" - they don't give a toss how bad it gets
Quote: lofthouse @ 1st December 2022, 7:00 PMBrexit has added almost £6 billion to UK food bills over the past two years, new research has found.
Household food bills are up six per cent since the UK's formal departure from the European Union, a study from the London School of Economics' Centre for Economic Performance (CEP) revealed.
Low-income households have been hardest hit by the uptick in costs, with Brexit-induced price rises adding 1.1 per cent to their total cost of living - more than the 0.7 per cent increase felt by the wealthiest decile of households.
In all, UK consumers paid £5.8 billion in additional food costs over the two years.
Commenting on the findings, Jacob Rees-Mogg - who previously said we will get cheaper food and clothing outside of the EU - argued that Brits will avoid a 2 per cent extra cost to fish fingers thanks to Brexit, as well as bagging savings on some cheeses....
Like he even knows what a f**king fish finger is!
Yawn!
Quote: Lazzard @ 2nd December 2022, 10:49 AMOf course Brexit isn't the main problem.
Brexit is like a stone in your shoe when you're running away from a tiger.
It's not the main problem - but it's not exactly helping.
It also means the tiger will undoubtedly catch you first.
And - if it wasn't for the tiger chasing you - you'd probably have come to the conclusion by now that putting a stone in your shoe was a pretty piss-poor idea in the first place.
The thing is if everyone had accepted that Brexit was a democratic decision and everyone had worked together instead of trying to put obstacles in the way we probably wouldn't be in so much shit now.
Quote: Chappers @ 2nd December 2022, 10:25 PMYawn!
The thing is if everyone had accepted that Brexit was a democratic decision and everyone had worked together instead of trying to put obstacles in the way we probably wouldn't be in so much shit now.
That seems to be the party line most Brexiteers are taking at the moment- now that the shit's hitting the fan.
"The thing we said would work isn't working because the people who said it wouldn't work keep saying it's not working"
Brexiteers have been in power since Day One & have (mis)handled the negotiations from Day One.
The Tories got rid of most of the ardent Remainers
Labour haven't put up much of a fight, so you can't blame them.
Even the Lib Dems have backed off
Remainers are not the reason Brexit isn't working.
Brexit is.
It depends on where you stand to keep claiming it's a disaster!
Unless you are a rabid remainer, then everything you see and hear has Brexit to blame.
Go back before the democratic vote. Then there were some absolute disaster forecasts.
Everybody was leaving, huge companies would go, nobody would invest and the banks would abandon us.
A lot of this bitterness stems from not getting your own way.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 3rd December 2022, 10:34 AMIt depends on where you stand to keep claiming it's a disaster!
Unless you are a rabid remainer, then everything you see and hear has Brexit to blame.Go back before the democratic vote. Then there were some absolute disaster forecasts.
Everybody was leaving, huge companies would go, nobody would invest and the banks would abandon us.
A lot of this bitterness stems from not getting your own way.
As a Brexiteer, what do you see a the successes? A genuine question.
Pissing off lefties mainly.
I didn't say it was a disaster - I said it was a piss-poor idea.
It's a damp squib that has delivered very little and caused many more problems than it solved.
It has unnecessarily divided the country and is certainly not in the interests of you or I.
The shit that is hitting the fan is an increased realisation amongst the general public that it might have been a choice made both in haste and in error.
Which is why this ridiculous "They're trying to steal Brexit!" narrative is being promoted by the Hard-Brexit crowd.
We won't rejoin, but I guarantee we'll be far more closely aligned within 5 or 6 years.
It's just common sense, and the bulk of the country will be pretty sanguine about it.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 3rd December 2022, 10:43 AMPissing off lefties mainly.
I think, at its heart, that's what it comes down to.
It was only ever a protest vote.
Quote: chipolata @ 3rd December 2022, 10:40 AMAs a Brexiteer, what do you see a the successes? A genuine question.
It's too early to say, probably most of the Brexiteers knew that it would take many years to show benefit, and that period has been extended by the Covid Pandemic and the war in Ukraine.
But the Remainers wanted to see the benefits yesterday and are now moaning because they aren't here (yet). Just too impatient.