Quote: Chris Hallam @ 7th September 2022, 8:34 AMEr...yes. I was discussing the word 'yate' because you yourself said 'Labour's hatred blinds their judgement.' That was the point!
Yate?
I read the news today oh boy! Page 2,456
Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 7th September 2022, 9:07 AMYate?
Yes. Yate! And I stand by it!
Definitely wasn't a typo.
OK
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 7th September 2022, 7:31 AMthis (generally very conservative) forum.
Really?
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 7th September 2022, 7:31 AMRight-wing people generally seem much angrier and prone to feelings of hatred than Lefties do.
Again, really?
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 7th September 2022, 7:31 AM... feeling like the nation has been transported back to the 1970s.
That would be the decade of left-wing union leaders popping in and out of number 10 for tea & sandwiches while dictating policy, and of Harold Wilson's & James Callaghan's Labour premierships that you're denigrating would it? Crisis? What crisis?
And you really believe that the last administration was right wing? I'm trying to think of some right wing policies that they accomplished. Not what they promised to do or threatened to do. But what they actually achieved. Even the Labour party struggled to disagree with most of what they carried out - merely that they should have done it sooner or for longer or that we should have more of the same.
There being no white men in the four great offices of state is a huge boost for the Tories, even though it infuriates many of their voters. I'm thinking of pitching a cartoon strip idea to Private Eye, like Spy v Spy in Mad magazine, Right v Left. Could be good fun. Whaddya think?
'The four Trussketeers'?
No, because the idea is Right versus Left, and who knows how long all four will stay in power? Ministers get sacked or moved around...
Good joke though.
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 7th September 2022, 8:04 AMReally? Jewish Labour MPs getting death threats, Blairite MPs being bullied out of office, Tory MP murdered, anti capitalist protesters smashing up banks in the City, X-Rebels smashing petrol pumps and blocking motorways, academics bullied out of jobs by trans-rights groups, statues slung in rivers? What political wing I wonder are these people aligned to?
False equivalence.
They're all far-left or anarchists or God knows what extremists
It's like aligning Tommy Robinson, Laurence Fox, the murder of Sarah Cox, the EDF and Britain First with the mainstream Tory party.
(Or ISIS suicide-bombers with the entire Muslim faith - something many are more than happy to do)
If - God willing - there was to be a change of govt. it would be a very Centrist, Progressive affair.
Quote: Lazzard @ 7th September 2022, 10:10 AMIt's like aligning Tommy Robinson, Laurence Fox, the murder of Sarah Cox, the EDF and Britain First with the mainstream Tory party.
And you think Chris hasn't done that in his loose generalisation?
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 7th September 2022, 7:31 AMRight-wing people generally seem much angrier and prone to feelings of hatred than Lefties do.
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 7th September 2022, 10:16 AMAnd you think Chris hasn't done that in his loose generalisation?
Not to the same extent, no.
But I am not my brothers keeper.
I was responding to you associating extremist behaviour with UK Labour.
It's what the Tory frontbenchers do when they want to scare their voters.
No I wasn't. I was associating with it 'Lefties' as in his post. It's just that my first two examples included lefties who were in the fringes (to quote someone else, if that's just a fringe, I'm bald) of the Labour Party. They didn't murder but they threatened to.
People on this site get called 'Leftie" (often proceeded by looney) all the time, just because they're not Tories.
Generalisations help nobody.
Often? Where? Often = regular.
Can't be bothered to scroll back 2000 pages.
Will you accept "sometimes"?
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 7th September 2022, 9:47 AMReally?
Again, really?
That would be the decade of left-wing union leaders popping in and out of number 10 for tea & sandwiches while dictating policy, and of Harold Wilson's & James Callaghan's Labour premierships that you're denigrating would it? Crisis? What crisis?
And you really believe that the last administration was right wing? I'm trying to think of some right wing policies that they accomplished. Not what they promised to do or threatened to do. But what they actually achieved. Even the Labour party struggled to disagree with most of what they carried out - merely that they should have done it sooner or for longer or that we should have more of the same.
Right wing measures carried out by this administration?
Okay...
1. Brexit was a right-wing move. The referendum was only held in response to a perceived UKIP threat to the Tories. It is impossible to imagine Labour ever having done the same thing.
2. The abolition of foreign aid. Appalling.
3. The aggressive PritI Patel led actions towards asylum seekers. The Rwanda plan. Hardly 'accomplishments' but they did happen.
3. The disastrous and horrendously expensive decision to hire out the track and trace system to private finance.
4. The expensive and unnecessary decision to restore 'old blue' passports.
5. The bedroom tax.
6.The decision to give Trump a state visit.
7. The alliance with the DUP and the billion pounds granted to them
8. The education policies of Michael Gove.
9. The proposed bid to privatise Channel 4, threats to the licence fee. Plans to restore imperial measures.
10. The abolition of the British Film Council.
11. The decision to ignore the Leverson Report on press reform.
12. Widespread devastating austerity cuts leading to widespread library closures etc