Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 28th October 2021, 10:24 AMJust been offered a job teaching at my local university.
I have to fill a form out for lesson plans. Iv'e stared at it for hours...
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Quote: Hercules Grytpype Thynne @ 31st October 2021, 12:24 PMYou can round that up with Baby Showers, Fathers/Mothers Day etc. etc.
Not so fast - Mother's Day pre-dates the discovery of America by some several centuries.
Mothering Sunday, I remember it well from when I was a choir boy (not a joke, you'd hardly believe it eh)
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 31st October 2021, 2:41 PM................when I was a choir boy (not a joke, you'd hardly believe it eh)
Were you ever interfered with? 
What sort of a question is that ?????
...or did you lead on the poor innocent priest?
Dirty boy! 
It was a vicar and he unceremoniously dumped me during practice because my voice had broken.
To be fair, I had been winging it for a few weeks singing quietly or miming.
But I had to sing descant to O come all ye faithful and sounded like a duck being strangled.
Quote: Lazzard @ 31st October 2021, 1:23 PMNot so fast - Mother's Day pre-dates the discovery of America by some several centuries.
You appear to be confusing Mothering Sunday, which does indeed stem from Mediaeval times and which, as Stephen implies in his subsequent post, had/has religious significance and Mother's Day, which is a relatively modern phenomenon and has more commercial connotations than religious.
Quote: Lazzard @ 31st October 2021, 1:23 PMNot so fast - Mother's Day pre-dates the discovery of America by some several centuries.
Quote: Billy Bunter @ 31st October 2021, 7:53 PMYou appear to be confusing Mothering Sunday, which does indeed stem from Mediaeval times and which, as Stephen implies in his subsequent post, had/has religious significance and Mother's Day, which is a relatively modern phenomenon and has more commercial connotations than religious.
Thank you, Billy 
No confusion.
It's the same day - people just started calling it Mother's Day - doesn't even fall on the same date as the US version.
It's the fourth Sunday in Lent - so when Easter shifts about so does the UK Mother's Day.
The US one isn't fixed to the Christian calendar - 2nd Sunday in May or something.
Not sure when the name change occurred - I remember it being called both in the late 60's - so that was probably when the change-over started.
Fathers Day etc are all bollocks, though.
Except that the Mothering Sunday that was celebrated several centuries before the discovery of America, to which you specifically referred in your original post, was solely a religious festival that involved visiting the mother church and had nothing to do, at that time, with one's maternal parent.
When Mother's Day, in its present form, was imported from America in the early/mid 20th century, it was linked to Mothering Sunday in this country and was celebrated on the same day. But that does not mean that the original purpose of Mothering Sunday and the current practice of Mother's Day are one and the same.
I didn't know that. It was just different hymns to me 
Well, it was called Mothering Sunday when I was a kid and we all gave our Mums a bunch of daffs -as well as a Mother's Day card.
As did our parents to their parents when they were kids.
I hate the commercialisation of life as much as the next man, but to claim Mother's Day is some US invented 'intrusion' just isn't borne out by reality.
I thought it was so you could give the slaves a day off to visit their Mums.