Quote: Chris Hallam @ 21st August 2020, 5:44 PMTrump is a complete disgrace. No question.
I'm stiil not convinced he's not going to win again though.
He might well win.
And he'll certainly challenge any loss - he will not leave gracefully.
If he does get a 2nd term, that's when I think he will do the most lasting damage to America's reputation.
The majority put him in power, as did the people here.
Majority rule and the minority whine.
You only ever hear the people that lost....most are happy with the status quo, they just don't say.
Tories have been a minority twice in recent history. And most of the whining is done by the so-called rulers, that Westminster bureaucrats have the real power for instance,
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 21st August 2020, 7:42 PMThe majority put him in power, as did the people here.
Majority rule and the minority whine.You only ever hear the people that lost....most are happy with the status quo, they just don't say.
Not true in either case.
Trump actually got three million votes less than Clinton in 2016.
Perhaps this is why he whines more than anyone?
Quote: Lazzard @ 21st August 2020, 3:33 PMThe inevitability of Trump crashing & burning is beyond question.
It's all about WHEN, and wether he takes the reputation of the US irrevocably with him.
I'm quietly confident history will see him as a particularly noxious blip, but a blip all the same, and then we can all start liking America again.
I'm hoping the same goes for our own Neo-Liberal, Kleptocratic basket-case of a Govt.
Tired of being ashamed of my own country, frankly.
I don't think you need worry too much about a kleptocracy here. There's nothing left for them to steal. What was it at the last count? A shade over £2,000,000,000,000?
Quote: Chris Hallam @ 21st August 2020, 9:19 PMNot true in either case.
Trump actually got three million votes less than Clinton in 2016.
Perhaps this is why he whines more than anyone?
What a shock, another much repeated 'fact'
According to lefties, there has never been a vote that was fair or won by cheating by any opposing party or body.
It's too easy to relate it to playground tantrums.
Quote: lofthouse @ 15th August 2020, 11:09 AMImagine having to listen to crickets all night - must drive you potty
Tell that to Buddy Holly.
Trump will win again. He's got his bum chum Putin to help rig the result.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 21st August 2020, 9:47 PMWhat a shock, another much repeated 'fact'
According to lefties, there has never been a vote that was fair or won by cheating by any opposing party or body.It's too easy to relate it to playground tantrums.
Is that not true then? Sorry - please fill me in on the 'facts' then? I didn't say it wasn't fair.
Are you saying that Trump won more votes than Clinton then? Or that a majority of voters in the last election voted Conservative?
I think you're the only one having a tantrum here.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 21st August 2020, 7:42 PMThe majority put him in power, as did the people here.
Doesn't make it right though, does it?
A lot of bad people end up running things, 'cos dumb people put them there.
I'll take the moral high-ground any day.
Lol....dumb people.
Any more?
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 22nd August 2020, 2:33 PMLol....dumb people.
Any more?
What? Dumb people?
Millions of them, apparently.
Quote: Lazzard @ 22nd August 2020, 1:52 PMDoesn't make it right though, does it?
A lot of bad people end up running things, 'cos dumb people put them there.
I'll take the moral high-ground any day.
I gave up on attacking Trump, how can you lampoon someone like him? He has the natural ability of sounding dumber that i could ever paint him. So i have returned to my default position where Politics or religion are concerned. I worry about the stuff i can change and don't waste time on the stuff i can't.
The thing i just can not get my head around though is - despite the lack of integrity and character displayed by our political masters on this side of the pond i could not envisage any of them surviving (In a political sense) a scandal such as -
a) When being accused of not paying their Taxes, replying "That makes me smart."
b) Having to pay out a $25 million settlement over a 'sham' university business course they had set up in their name. A course that a Judge described as 'fraudulent'.
Either of these would surely end a UK politicians career?
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 21st August 2020, 9:47 PMWhat a shock, another much repeated 'fact'
According to lefties.
Here's yet another fact (how many do you need ?):
In 2017 Trump lost the popular vote, in this case by 2,868,686 votes. This suggests there must be an "unpopular vote", maybe even a "slightly more interesting vote". 
Also: Michael Cohen's recent book states Trump did have a golden shower in Russia. This is only his lawyer's opinion, but let's be honest, you couldn't rule it out could you? The Don is going down, deep down and dirty. 
Trump and bojo are angels compared with Putin
The guy is excrement
He is literally poisoning anyone who dares point out that he is a c**t
Russia has a new Stalin
Well maybe not in his league , but he is a murdering psychotic dictator