Quote: DaButt @ 19th October 2019, 2:56 PMSo a vote by tens of millions of citizens doesn't count.
I agree, it is bizarre that Hilary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 yet Donald Trump became president. It was like the votes of millions of citizens didn't count.
Quote: chipolata @ 19th October 2019, 4:05 PMI agree, it is bizarre that Hilary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 yet Donald Trump became president. It was like the votes of millions of citizens didn't count.
As you know, our system doesn't use the popular vote to elect presidents. A better analogy would be if Democrats had decided to overturn Trump's legitimate election. Something they're still trying to do, of course. Sour grapes politics.
Quote: DaButt @ 19th October 2019, 4:31 PMSour grapes politics.
The people have voted and found Trump more sourer than Clinton.
You need a better metaphor, Da Butt. 
Quote: Paul Wimsett @ 19th October 2019, 4:40 PMThe people have voted and found Trump more sourer than Clinton.
You need a better metaphor, Da Butt.
He's rotten. She's sour. They've both started to stink.
Would you accept Clinton winning via Cambridge Analytica?
Quote: Paul Wimsett @ 19th October 2019, 4:46 PMWould you accept Clinton winning via Cambridge Analytica?
I wouldn't accept another Clinton as president. The same goes for the Bush family, although Jeb would have made a good president.
Quote: DaButt @ 19th October 2019, 4:31 PMAs you know, our system doesn't use the popular vote to elect presidents. A better analogy would be if Democrats had decided to overturn Trump's legitimate election. Something they're still trying to do, of course. Sour grapes politics.
I wouldn't say it was legitimate with the Russian influence. However, my point (as proved by your post) is that we are all hypocrites and all tend to pick and those votes we see as legitimate and those we don't, depending on our political leanings.
In an FA Cup match today, Yeovil were playing Haringey and were winning 1 - 0 after more than an hour's play.
The Haringey team then walked off the pitch, complaining they'd heard racial abuse from the crowd.
The referee decided to abandon the match.
I'm not sure what will happen with regard to the result of the match.
Will Yeovil be deemed the winners?
Will the match be resumed and the final 30 minutes played?
Or will the match be replayed over a full 90 minutes with the previous score disregarded?
If I understand the rules of football correctly (and it's quite possible I don't), any of those options is possible at the discretion of the FA.
However, if Haringey get a full 90-minute replay, it won't be long before a football manager with a little intelligence realises there is no need for his team ever to lose another game.
Clearly, it would be farcical if any team pulled such a stunt every time they were losing a game but what if they were playing an important game and had planted a few people in the crowd with instructions to begin racist abuse when a certain signal is given?
You think I'm joking?
I wish I were. 
Meghan's PR team appears to be earning its money.
Apparently, some 60,000 people have tweeted messages of support with the hashtag #WeLoveYouMeghan after seeing an emotional clip from a documentary to be screened tonight.
In the documentary, Meghan explains how difficult it is to be a mother.
I'm sure millions of women (and their partners, family and friends) all over the world already know exactly how difficult motherhood can be but I'm also sure millions of them know it can be a damn sight easier if you happen to be a multimillionaire in your own right and your husband is much richer than you are, and his dad is much richer than he is and his grandmother is a billionaire.
It also helps if you're a duchess and your husband is a prince and you can live a life of complete and utter luxury without ever having to spend a single penny of your own money.
If Meghan thinks she's having a hard life, I will willingly take her by the hand and lead her through the streets of London (or Manchester or Birmingham or lots of other British villages, towns and cities) and show her a thing or two that might make her change her mind.
In the documentary, Meghan complains, "Not many people have asked if I'm okay."
Really? Could that possibly be because millions upon millions upon millions of people all over the world would happily crawl a hundred miles over broken glass to have a life like yours, Meghan?
On one of the world news channels this morning :-
Catalonia president Quim Torra has called for talks with the Spanish government after a fifth consecutive night of violence in the streets of Barcelona, and other parts of the region, as anger over the jailing of Catalan separatist leaders continued.
I'm saying nothing, apart from no wonder the BBC didn't report this. 
Quote: Rood Eye @ 20th October 2019, 9:31 AMMeghan's PR team appears to be earning its money.
Apparently, some 60,000 people have tweeted messages of support with the hashtag #WeLoveYouMeghan after seeing an emotional clip from a documentary to be screened tonight.
In the documentary, Meghan explains how difficult it is to be a mother.
I'm sure millions of women (and their partners, family and friends) all over the world already know exactly how difficult motherhood can be but I'm also sure millions of them know it can be a damn sight easier if you happen to be a multimillionaire in your own right and your husband is much richer than you are, and his dad is much richer than he is and his grandmother is a billionaire.
It also helps if you're a duchess and your husband is a prince and you can live a life of complete and utter luxury without ever having to spend a single penny of your own money.
If Meghan thinks she's having a hard life, I will willingly take her by the hand and lead her through the streets of London (or Manchester or Birmingham or lots of other British villages, towns and cities) and show her a thing or two that might make her change her mind.
In the documentary, Meghan complains, "Not many people have asked if I'm okay."
Really? Could that possibly be because millions upon millions upon millions of people all over the world would happily crawl a hundred miles over broken glass to have a life like yours, Meghan?
You've got it right.
100%
Quote: DaButt @ 19th October 2019, 2:56 PMSo a vote by tens of millions of citizens doesn't count, but one by a handful of politicians does.
This is Britain you know. We pay them to represent us and they take the money and crap on us.
I think it's true to say that, at any time since human beings developed language (possibly as long ago as 200,000 years), any child asking its parent whether or not men menstruate would have been told that menstruation is an exclusively female process.
Apparently, however, times have changed.
Procter & Gamble, who manufacture Always sanitary products have recently removed the Venus/female symbol from all packs of such products following objections from people who, although needing to use such products because they menstruate every month, nevertheless do not identify as women.
Yes, I'm talking about people who were born female but who now identify as male.
Many of them are uncomfortable about their ongoing need for products traditionally deemed exclusively female.
Procter & Gamble have made the change on packaging of all appropriate products throughout Europe.
Savvy commercialism, not least from all the free publicity they'll get this week from Piers Morgan frothing at the mouth with synthetic fury about it.