" Hate has no place in America. Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul. "
This coming from the man who exhibits hatred of someone in almost every tweet he makes.
And no mention of how easily the killers got their guns,of course.
Quote: DaButt @ 6th August 2019, 1:18 AMConsider his speech today:
Trump, like Boris, tells voters whatever they want to hear. Both have a habit of denying the undeniable, without reference to fact or evidence. It appears you also do this by arguing Trump is not racist. Here's just one of many articles evidencing Trumps historic racism, going way back to 1973.
https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
Maybe this comedy video explains it better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRdkrDk0BQ0
Da Butt you've lost all credibility trying to pretend Trump is not racist. Lets agree to disagree on this one. You have more chance of convincing me that Jay-Z is a time-travelling vampire (Google it , its a current theory).
I suppose we should feel lucky that we don't have guns here, especially automatic weapons.
We have the same proportion of loonies and supremacists that would happily go on a rampage with them.
The difference here is, if we wanted a gun of any type, we would not have a clue how to get hold of one.
Whereas in the USA the local shops sell a full range.
Quote: john tregorran @ 6th August 2019, 4:04 AMThis coming from the man who exhibits hatred of someone in almost every tweet he makes.
I think you have a very warped understanding of what the word "hate" means.
Quote: john tregorran @ 6th August 2019, 4:04 AMAnd no mention of how easily the killers got their guns,of course.
I'll turn that around and remind you that the police chiefs in both cities have stated that there was nothing in the shooters' backgrounds that would have prevented them from purchasing the weapons that they used. It's almost as if all the new gun control legislation is useless in preventing these kind of crimes.
Quote: Firkin @ 6th August 2019, 7:27 AMDa Butt you've lost all credibility trying to pretend Trump is not racist.
The definition of the word has been twisted (for political means, naturally) until actual racism doesn't even need to be present. The president's remark about Mexicans was clearly not his finest oratorical moment (those are almost nonexistent) but anyone who sincerely believes that he meant that every single illegal immigrant (oops, I've been informed that that term is racist, too) is a drug dealing, murdering rapist, is delusional. Our prisons are full of drug dealing, murdering rapists from Mexico and Central America. They are arrested in my city day in and day out. Wide-open borders are a danger to this nation, and your compadres in Canada agree with me. I couldn't even visit Canada with a decade-old DUI, but we're expected to let people sneak across our borders without restriction.
Last week I read an article in a major American newspaper that claimed that craft beer was racist because so many white men drink it. All you can do is laugh, and that's not the appropriate response when talking about racism - at least the real kind.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 6th August 2019, 8:30 AMI suppose we should feel lucky that we don't have guns here, especially automatic weapons.
Do you honestly believe that automatic weapons are being used in these crimes? They haven't been. In any of them.
Automatic weapons have essentially been banned since 1934.
Quote: DaButt @ 6th August 2019, 11:02 AMThe definition of the word has been twisted (for political means, naturally) until actual racism doesn't even need to be present. The president's remark about Mexicans was clearly not his finest oratorical moment (those are almost nonexistent) but anyone who sincerely believes that he meant that every single illegal immigrant (oops, I've been informed that that term is racist, too) is a drug dealing, murdering rapist, is delusional. Our prisons are full of drug dealing, murdering rapists from Mexico and Central America. They are arrested in my city day in and day out. Wide-open borders are a danger to this nation, and your compadres in Canada agree with me. I couldn't even visit Canada with a decade-old DUI, but we're expected to let people sneak across our borders without restriction.
Your prisons are also filled with white American born scuzzballs. And black American born scuzzballs. And Trump's comments on Mexicans are the tip of the iceberg on his racism. For example, telling non-white Americans (who just happen to be critical of him) to go home is racist.
People are cancelling their subscription to the New York Times, because it had a pro Trump coverage about his speech. Where he projects blame away from himself onto computer games among other things. I wonder if the campaign to get him tested for Narcisstic Personality Disorder (NPD) is still going, they had a petition of over 150K last time I looked. Because he was also blaming mental health, i.e. NPD, i.e. himself. He certainly behaves like someone with NPD and he's got his finger on the biggest gun in America. Hypocritical Racist.
Quote: chipolata @ 6th August 2019, 11:54 AMYour prisons are also filled with white American born scuzzballs. And black American born scuzzballs. And Trump's comments on Mexicans are the tip of the iceberg on his racism. For example, telling non-white Americans (who just happen to be critical of him) to go home is racist.
And those back and white scuzzballs are legal citizens. The ones who illegally crossed the border are not.
As for Trump's tweet, the full text is a little different than a simple "go home":
"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done.
Quote: DaButt @ 4th August 2019, 11:45 PMThe police chiefs investigating yesterday's shootings have said that there was nothing in the shooters' backgrounds that would have prevented them from legally purchasing firearms.
That's the point. It's too easy to get a gun in your country.
The right to bear arms comes from a time when you wanted to get away from us. You got away so there's no need now is there.
Meanwhile, a bit of good news: disgraced former Labour MP for Peterborough Fiona Onasanya has been struck off as a solicitor after being jailed for lying to avoid a speeding conviction.
I doubt the House of Commons or the Law Society will be sorry to see her go.
Quote: DaButt @ 6th August 2019, 10:30 PMAs for Trump's tweet, the full text is a little different than a simple "go home":
You're right, it's worse. 
"So interesting to see 'progressive' Democrat congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful nation on earth, how our government is to be run.
"Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done."
Many years ago, as a primary-school child, I was on the beach with my family when I casually asked why men on the beach walked about bare-chested but women didn't.
I was told that it wasn't ladylike for a woman to do that.
Fast-forward several decades to 2019 and the authorities in Barcelona have ruled that it's against the law to insist that women cover their chests at swimming pools and such places. Equality legislation makes it clear that if men can walk about like that, so can women.
Clearly, as a child, I was very much ahead of my time!
Two women wearing burkas was stopped by security staff in Asda, Dagenham today.
A search revealed they were carrying about 20 stolen items under their costumes.
After having given up all her stolen items, one of the women lifted her robes to display her knickers and torso in order to show she didn't have any further stolen items.
After leaving the stolen goods on the floor, the woman walks straight out of the store - apparently confident that security staff wouldn't detain her.
She was right.
I wonder why they didn't detain her?
Quote: Rood Eye @ 7th August 2019, 12:10 PMTwo women wearing burkas was stopped by security staff in Asda, Dagenham today.
A search revealed they were carrying about 20 stolen items under their costumes.
After having given up all her stolen items, one of the women lifted her robes to display her knickers and torso in order to show she didn't have any further stolen items.
After leaving the stolen goods on the floor, the woman walks straight out of the store - apparently confident that security staff wouldn't detain her.
She was right.
I wonder why they didn't detain her?
Absolutely disgusting. And Racist!
Quote: Rood Eye @ 7th August 2019, 12:31 AMMeanwhile, a bit of good news: disgraced former Labour MP for Peterborough Fiona Onasanya has been struck off as a solicitor after being jailed for lying to avoid a speeding conviction.
I doubt the House of Commons or the Law Society will be sorry to see her go.
A shame she wasn't sorted out before she had a chance to vote against the Government.
I'm pretty sure only police are allowed to physically apprehend you unless they do a citizens arrest but I doubt that happens much. All they can do is keep following insisting they remain because police are on the way. As soon as security touch someone like hold on to a jacket collar they start playing the victim writhing on the floor screaming how much pain they're in and all the videos of it from sad bystanders go viral each with its own angle on what went down. The security guards probably thought this is one encounter that could see them lose their jobs especially after how the woman reacted by exposing her underwear. This would have gone global if it kicked off.
If she was stopped before leaving she hadn't technically committed any criminal offence because it's only theft when you have exited the store. I'm not saying I agree she should get off because the loot clearly shows this isn't the first time but I can understand why store security didn't pursue it. Social media can whip up minor events like this in to sensational reporting by gutter press or a witness who films it repeating "oh my god" all the way through.
Quote: Definitely Tarby @ 7th August 2019, 11:04 PMI'm pretty sure only police are allowed to physically apprehend you unless they do a citizens arrest but I doubt that happens much. All they can do is keep following insisting they remain because police are on the way. As soon as security touch someone like hold on to a jacket collar they start playing the victim writhing on the floor screaming how much pain they're in and all the videos of it from sad bystanders go viral each with its own angle on what went down. The security guards probably thought this is one encounter that could see them lose their jobs especially after how the woman reacted by exposing her underwear. This would have gone global if it kicked off.
If she was stopped before leaving she hadn't technically committed any criminal offence because it's only theft when you have exited the store. I'm not saying I agree she should get off because the loot clearly shows this isn't the first time but I can understand why store security didn't pursue it. Social media can whip up minor events like this in to sensational reporting by gutter press or a witness who films it repeating "oh my god" all the way through.
I agree. We live in the 'Don't Get Involved Age'. It's safer.