That's awful.
Poor sods - terrible way to go.
I read the news today oh boy! Page 1,938
Come on, let's put things in perspective and focus on real problems: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11888435
Donald Trump is such a complete shit. He's like the kind of ignorant, prejudiced, IQ of 80, ned you might meet in one of the grottiest Glasgow pubs. It would be nice if all the non-transgender soldiers laid down their arms and told him to f**k off.
He's a pathetic excuse for a president. Or human.
It really is difficult to understand how any decent person could have voted for him. There are no words to describe my disgust and revulsion.
It's a bit awkward to talk about since one of us did (*waves at dabutt*) so I'm not talking about him. BUT I think a lot of people enjoyed the thought that they were sticking it to 'the man' (although the man in this case was a woman).
But surely most of the decent people that did vote for him agree by now that the experiment wasn't worth it? It's all gone very Pete Tong.
Or in other words, it's gone exactly, to the letter, how I thought it would go. He's been every bit as vile and useless and embarrassing as I knew he would be.
The non decent people that voted for him (ie the racists and homophobes and so on) will always think he's wonderful no matter what he does, of course. He could literally mow down dozens of people in the street for no reason and they'd still cheer him on.
Trump is a dick. But having the taxpayer foot the bill for blokes to get their nuts cut off and their cock spliced and inverted is dumb.
What about transgender people who paid for it themselves? Or transitioned before they joined?
And to quote a tweet I saw earlier:
US military cost for trans-related treatment: $2.4 million
US military cost for Viagra pills: $84 million
This wasn't about saving money.
The more of these kinds of decisions he makes the closer to impeachment it's getting and I have to see some positivity in it because I can't stand how Trump seems to think his nice new job is a game for him to play that he has to win. He's so used to being surrounded by yes men that's all he wants to hear and doesn't have an ounce of diplomatic skills.
I'm not sure how accurate it is but the story I read today on an unamed tabloid website said that Trump delared that he has made the decision to not allow any transgender people from being part of the US military because of the 'increased costs' and that is the most degrading and ignorant statement I've ever read. It says he made the decision after 'consulting with his generals and most senior military staff' which to me shows that's his way of deflecting the uproar it could cause as he could blame his advisors.
It's like he's saying a transgender soldier would need more time off and while that could be true in some cases it wouldn't be for the majority and this could be discussed at the selection stage so it's a pathetic excuse to make a complete ban especially when the majority would not need any more time off than non-transexual staff. He is a total idiot and it's an insult to every person in the military who already work with fully transitioned colleagues.
Ironic that a draft dodger disrespects people who are actually brave enough to give their lives to defend his country.
Mind you, he does that all the time.
Spending the taxpayer's money on Viagra is also dumb.
As for all the fellas who spent their own money on having their nuts cut off and their cock spliced and inverted, prior to signing up for the military, well, good luck to them. As a phony careers guidance counselor, I'd suggest there are more creative outlets for their talents than serving in the military.
Global annual spending on nuclear weapons: $105 billion.
US annual spending on pets: $60 billion.
This isn't just about gender dysphoria.
Quote: Kenneth @ 26th July 2017, 11:23 PMAs for all the fellas who spent their own money on having their nuts cut off and their cock spliced and inverted, prior to signing up for the military, well, good luck to them. As a phony careers guidance counselor, I'd suggest there are more creative outlets for their talents than serving in the military.
And they'd tell you, quite rightly, to stuff your uneducated opinions up your arse. 
Quote: Definitely Tarby @ 26th July 2017, 11:06 PMIt's like he's saying a transgender soldier would need more time off and while that could be true in some cases it wouldn't be for the majority ... especially when the majority would not need any more time off than non-transexual staff.
Most people return to work after vaginoplasty in about 4-6 weeks. You can resume strenous work and exercise in 6-8 weeks. People who have undergone sex reassignment surgery male to female should avoid all strenuous activities during the first 2 weeks after they leave the hospital. This includes pulling, pushing, lifting, straining, bending and walking more than necessary. After 5 days have gone by since your sex reassignment surgery male to female, you can take a shower. However, it is still important to avoid rubbing incisions. Instead, pat yourself dry gently with a clean towel.
"Sorry, can't the join the war, my new vagina is still healing. Superb vagina too, and my good buddy Uncle Sam picked up the tab."
It all sounds like the stuff Klinger used to come up with in M*A*S*H in the hope of being discharged from the Army on the grounds of being mentally unfit.
So all soldiers who have any stay in hospital should be banned then?
Again, this ban includes all transgender people. People who had surgery years ago, not just those who have work done during serving.
Also not all transgender people even have surgeries done. Some just take hormones.
Quote: zooo @ 26th July 2017, 11:46 PMSo all soldiers who have any stay in hospital should be banned then?
That's a logical fallacy called false equivalence.
I don't care if transgender people join the military, but it is dumb to waste state funds on gender reassignment surgery and Viagra and pedigree pets* and McDonald's, no matter how infinitesimal it all seems when compared to Scrooge McDuck's net wealth.
* Better to adopt mongrel strays.