DaButt
Friday 14th October 2016 1:35pm [Edited]
14,722 posts
Quote: Frankie Rage @ 14th October 2016, 12:37 PM
I think the point was, saying you have done nasty things (particularly in a private conversation in a locker room or anywhere) is not the same as it being proven you have done them.
If the police need to investigate then the tape is out there, if there has there been an offence, of course he should be charged, and if women come forward with accusations of assault then the police should investigate.
Exactly.
The timing of these revelations couldn't be more suspect. Trump was atop Hillary in the polls and then all of a sudden tapes and accusations from a decade or more ago began to appear. It's clear that the media sat on them until using them to try to swing the election in a classic October Surprise, and it's reprehensible.
I'll stand by my assertion that men and women say crude, immoral and disgusting things in private when amongst friends. A few weeks ago my friend and I were driving through the neighborhood and saw a well-endowed woman jogging in short shorts and a tight top in the distance and we made the typical comments until we got closer and realized that the woman was actually a girl of about 15. We both grimaced and changed the subject quickly. Neither of us would ever whistle at or catcall a woman; it was just harmless "guy talk" which hurt or offended no one, but had tape been rolling and were I in the middle of a political campaign, my enemies could use it to smear me as a creepy pedophile.
I socialize with a large group of men and women of all ages and political persuasions. Feminists, liberals, ultra-conservatives, Bible thumpers, doctors, businessmen, teachers, rape victims, and everything else under the sun. Last weekend we all discussed Trump's tape and not one of us thought it was a big deal and we all admitted that we'd said similar things in private during our lives. It's not as if there isn't a sordid history of presidential hanky panky in the White House: Kennedy was shagging Marilyn Monroe before he died and everyone remembers Bill Clinton treating a 20-year-old female intern as his own personal humidor. 
One of the women brought up an interesting point by pointing out that almost every sexual encounter, especially the first one with a particular individual, begins on some rather shaky moral/legal ground. Kisses come out of nowhere, body parts are groped and there's rarely a formal verbal or written request for permission beforehand. It's all about reading body language, sensing the other person's mood and being ready to back off if the other person objects in even the slightest way. It's tricky business, that's for sure. I've never had a woman resist my rather timid and infrequent advances, but I have had women I secretly fancied tell me years later that they had always hoped that I would kiss them, but never did. I missed out on what would have been fantastic relationships with wonderful women because I was afraid of getting it wrong. Like I said, it's tricky business.
