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Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 6th May 2014, 10:47 PM BST

That's the funny thing about 'facts'.

http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/newswire/2013/popcorn-people-profiles-of-the-u-s-moviegoer-audience.html

'Although there were slightly more female moviegoers than male moviegoers in 2012 (51% and 49%, respectively), men accounted for 55 percent of theatrical attendance'

And these are just US figures, when you take into account the world box office numbers, then patterns begin to emerge. Look at the numbers here and total up how many of these films are aimed at the teenage male demographic -

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2013

I would just like to make it clear that I'm persecuted by windmills and my tilting at them is an act of pure self defence.

as for Wonder Woman in sensible clothes here's a post I stumbled across a while ago.

http://ladyofthegeek.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/super-heroines-sensible-clothes-bull.html

Quote: Marc P @ 6th May 2014, 10:54 PM BST

Well these facts you present contradict the statement made re films target audience or whatever it was about males buying 'more tickets:)

No, both say that men and women go to see movies, however men buy more tickets and go to more showings than women. The recent trend in targeting the female audience has resulted in more women going to the movies, but overall ticket sales are down.

As the world box office shows, films aimed at teenage boys have made remarkable amounts of money. Only Hunger Games and children's movies could compete.

Or men and women seeing different movies.

In the same you're going to struggle to make a guy friendly rom com, you're going to struggle to make a girl friendly super hero film or any kind of actioner.

I think the ones that straddle the divide are usually more entertaining.
For example Firefly, Alien, Zero Dark 30.

Alot of female lead actioners aren't so much female lead, as a bloke with tits and a gun.
Such as Elektra Assassin or Lara Croft.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 6th May 2014, 10:33 PM BST

It has morphed from it's original ideals into a wishy washy, centre ground, liberal, middle class, anything goes, past time. In days gone by, a woman like Katie Price, who shagged her way to fame and fortune, would never be considered a feminist icon - but she is now, for some weird reason.

Now that I can agree with, but in that respect it's like most protest movements.
e.g. lefties foaming at the mouth about promises made by the unelectable UKIP and ignoring Labor's atrocious record on immigration.

So there's this terrible vague sense of grumpiness about rape culture, whatever that actually is. Which ignores the stratsopheric leap from the films and comedies of the 70s.

And the unhappiness about women earning 25% less than men, when the simple explanation is the baby break or women who choose not to enter the work force (snigger).

http://entertainment.time.com/2013/08/30/why-dont-we-have-a-wonder-woman-movie/

If Time Magazine isn't too small of a reference -

'A Wonder Woman movie would be the first to have a solo superheroine since 2004′s Catwoman, and would have to shoulder the same mentality that argues that, because Sucker Punch flopped in 2011, female-led action movies are too much of a risk for studios (That, despite the success of The Hunger Games). A Wonder Woman movie wouldn't be seen as "just" a movie about Wonder Woman, but a movie for all female superheroes, under both a microscope for hidden meanings and the sheer, crushing expectation of creating something that is, well, worth what's now become a noticeable wait for a solo female superhero movie.'

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 6th May 2014, 11:04 PM BST

however men buy more ticketse.

Yes, because they are paying for their girlfriend most probably!

I refuse to be depressed by the thought that movies are purely 'aimed' and a total marketing machine, scripwriters have more soul than that.

Sucker Punch was dreadful in and of it's self.

Wonderwoman though unlike the other supes has a far dodgier history and one it would be hard to work around in a film.

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/arts/comic-books/wonder-woman.htm

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 6th May 2014, 10:47 PM BST

https://www.movieguide.org/news-articles/hollywood-demographics-2.html

'According to the MPAA, females purchased much fewer movie tickets in 2011 and 2010 in the U.S. and Canada compared to 2009, going from 55% of movie tickets sold to 50% of tickets sold. Males purchased more tickets in 2011 and 2010 compared to 2009, from 45% of the tickets sold to about 50%.'

That's the funny thing about 'facts'.

I just read this one about fifty fifty Sales

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 6th May 2014, 10:12 PM BST

The number one demographic for box office success is teenage boys, they buy more cinema tickets than any other group.

Still yet to see any facts about the 13 - 19 age group.

Quote: sootyj @ 6th May 2014, 11:15 PM BST

Sucker Punch was dreadful in and of it's self.

Wonderwoman though unlike the other supes has a far dodgier history and one it would be hard to work around in a film.

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/arts/comic-books/wonder-woman.htm

So it might not be because the evil feminists are keeping it away? :O

That Time article doesn't really look at the underlying reasons for a lack of female lead superhero movies.

Quote: Shandonbelle @ 6th May 2014, 11:14 PM BST

Yes, because they are paying for their girlfriend most probably!

Then those girlfriends need to be on the lookout for a bit of negative discrimination coming their way. Just to make things fair, like.

It's lead poisoning obviously!

from the TV show I think never made it

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Quote: Jennie @ 6th May 2014, 11:22 PM BST

That Time article doesn't really look at the underlying reasons for a lack of female lead superhero movies.

Quote: Marc P @ 6th May 2014, 11:22 PM BST

It's lead poisoning obviously!

Quote: sootyj @ 6th May 2014, 11:23 PM BST

from the TV show I think never made it

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Actually that was the million dollar woman but they ran out of budget as you can see.

http://www.npr.org/2013/07/31/207288030/lady-in-black-burka-avenger-fights-for-pakistans-girls

I keep reading this as bukake avenger, which suggests I have an incontrovertibly dirty mind.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 6th May 2014, 11:13 PM BST

solo female superhero movie.'

Bridgit Jones made blue soup, that's female superhero enough for me Smarmy

Quote: Jennie @ 6th May 2014, 11:22 PM BST

Still yet to see any facts about the 13 - 19 age group.

I linked to the Worldwide Box Office figures and it showed that the films that made the most money were aimed at the male 13-19 age group.

Here is yet another link -

http://www.boxofficeguru.com/intl.htm

Again, look at the films that have grossed the most money 'worldwide' recently. Women may have gone to see Avengers and Iron Man 3 but those films weren't aimed at them.

I do realise that young women do go to see superhero films like Thor because of Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston - the dirty, sexist, evil pigs.

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