Quote: Steve Sunshine @ 9th February 2014, 11:13 PM GMTJust watching QI XL
& it's 3 females & one male (Alan)
Stephen Fry counts as a man you homophobe!
No all-male panel BBC shows Page 4
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 9th February 2014, 11:15 PM GMTStephen Fry counts as a man you homophobe!
I've reported myself
Quote: Steve Sunshine @ 9th February 2014, 11:19 PM GMTI've reported myself
Do more funny women even want to appear on these panel shows though? Maybe they need to rethink the whole boring format.
The only one I ever really watched a lot was Buzzcocks, then Mock the Week for a while but now I struggle to bother with any of them.
I was of course kidding
Breaking up any kind of hegemony is always good for comedy
But I think an earlier poster made a good point, that panel shows are stifling and a bit dull. So just rearranging the format won't make that much difference.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/08/bbc-comedy-shows-male-panels-female-presence
'In December, BBC management told programme producers there was "no excuse" for not having women on comedy panel shows after new sex-representation objectives were set by the BBC Trust. In July last year, the Trust asked BBC director general Tony Hall to get more women on air "as a matter of urgency" throughout 2013-14.'
I'm just glad this is a well thought out and justifiable move by the BBC and not some kneejerk quick fix designed to appease a diktat. I am 100% sure that the quality of programmes will not be affected.
Just because there are 10 times as many male comics to female comics, I can't see this causing any bad blood as talented people lose out on work thanks to quotas and sex-representative objectives.
I am also positive that when more female stand ups like Grace Petrie (???) appear on panel shows, the number of women watching them will increase in their millions.
This is great news all round.
Quote: sootyj @ 10th February 2014, 12:12 AM GMTBut I think an earlier poster made a good point, that panel shows are stifling and a bit dull. So just rearranging the format won't make that much difference.
Perhaps they could replace them with more soaps and cooking shows?
Heel or No Heel.
I was thinking more along the lines of either sketch shows, or panel/sketch combos like the Daily Show.
But with I dunno more emphasis on writing and if its topical, taking it seriously.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 10th February 2014, 12:15 AM GMTPerhaps they could replace them with more soaps and cooking shows?
My real hope is that someone will come up with a programme that has a couple with £350k-£500k to spend and they want to live in the countryside.
I can dream can't I ?
Quote: sootyj @ 10th February 2014, 12:18 AM GMTBut with I dunno more emphasis on writing and if its topical, taking it seriously.
Sort of like 10 O'Clock Live? Wow, imagine how much better all these shows will be with a Lauren Laverne of their very own?
But as mentioned previously, panel shows are seemingly on the decline and what better way to hasten their demise then by introducing comedy quotas? Women won't care if they disappear, they'll just shrug their shoulders and say 'I didn't watch them anyways' - so it's all excellent stuff.
Quote: Oldrocker @ 10th February 2014, 12:23 AM GMTMy real hope is that someone will come up with a programme that has a couple with £350k-£500k to spend and they want to live in the countryside.
I can dream can't I ?
I think you know I disaproved of the slack quality of writing on the 10 oclock show
My honest opinion, no wind ups this time, proper truth and that - is that instead of introducing this kind of PC rubbish is to give marginalised groups their own comedy vehicle instead of imposing them on panel shows.
Smack The Pony - Awesome
The Real McCoy - Superb
Goodness Gracious Me - Brilliant
However, all of these things take time, money and imagination - all of which the BBC lacks, so it's easier, cheaper and faster to just shove a woman on a show and go 'look what we dones laydeez, we're nice to our birds on the Beeb'. It's not like the Trust are the ones actually making the shows and having to worry if they're funny or getting ratings. Smell my Femfresh producers and writers, it's your problem now.
Just because there are 10 times as many male comics to female comics, I can't see this causing any bad blood as talented people lose out on work thanks to quotas and sex-representative objectives.
Talented men, of course. The talented women are losing out already.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 10th February 2014, 12:35 AM GMTMy honest opinion, no wind ups this time, proper truth and that - is that instead of introducing this kind of PC rubbish is to give marginalised groups their own comedy vehicle instead of imposing them on panel shows.
Smack The Pony - Awesome
The Real McCoy - Superb
Goodness Gracious Me - BrilliantHowever, all of these things take time, money and imagination - all of which the BBC lacks, so it's easier, cheaper and faster to just shove a woman on a show and go 'look what we dones laydeez, we're nice to our birds on the Beeb'. It's not like the Trust are the ones actually making the shows and having to worry if they're funny or getting ratings. Smell my Femfresh producers and writers, it's your problem now.
I think you do both, as a matter of principle and of urgency.