You're so very odd, Renegade.
I read the news today oh boy! Page 1,422
Quote: zooo @ 22nd January 2014, 9:20 PM GMTYou're so very odd, Renegade. But I like you, like you like a 1970s cross dressing comic.
You are awful but I like you so much.
Zooo moderate yourself
Quote: zooo @ 22nd January 2014, 9:20 PM GMTYou're so very odd, Renegade. But I like you, like you like a 1970s cross dressing comic.
You are awful but I like you so much.
Zooo moderate yourself
Quote: zooo @ 22nd January 2014, 9:20 PM GMTYou're so very odd, Renegade.
Yes, I said that every now and then I wish the chicks would put it away so I don't have to deal with their overtly sexual displays and we can just all be normal, equal human beings without any societal pressure or misread signals.
You can't get much odder then that.
You'll notice when I said you were odd. And it wasn't after you said that now, was it. 
Quote: zooo @ 22nd January 2014, 9:29 PM GMTYou'll notice when I said you were odd. And it wasn't after you said that now, was it.
Oh fair enough, you're right there, no harm done. 
Attractive, middle class, white girl dies, parents blame Internet. Oh world wide web is there anything we can't attribute to your inherent evil?
Apparently the pretty ballet dancing train hugger enjoyed going to websites centred around self harming and suicide. Don't the people who run these sites know the vulnerability of the vulnerable teenagers who visit these sites because of their vulnerability and their predisposition towards vulnerable behaviour?
When will the people who own and run the Internet do something about it?
I'm now playing the game of guessing who RCP is trying to start an argument with.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 22nd January 2014, 9:28 PM GMTYes, I said that every now and then I wish the chicks would put it away so I don't have to deal with their overtly sexual displays
That is the kind of completely f**ked in the head logic used by Muslim men to justify their repression of women. Get some self-control for f**k's sake. If you can't see an attractive woman without feeling hot, bothered, flustered, horny, uncomfortable - golly. Would you prefer it if men and women were segregated into separate carriages on trains? Why not just ban women from working and leaving the house while we're at it? Or just shag yourself out every night and morning and try to get those sexual thoughts outta your system. Perhaps invest in an ereader?
Quote: sootyj @ 23rd January 2014, 12:32 AM GMTI'm now playing the game of guessing who RCP is trying to start an argument with.
Check and mate.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 22nd January 2014, 9:28 PM GMT... without any societal pressure or misread signals.
It does sound alarmingly like the justification used by rapists: "She shouldn't have been dressed like that if she didn't want attention." F**k off. Let women dress how they please.
As for blokes taking up space on trains with legs "splayed" - gender is a red herring. Some people are seat hogs and some aren't.
Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 23rd January 2014, 12:04 AM GMThttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2544080/She-clutches-toxic-digital-world-Mother-dancer-15-threw-train-creating-online-cocaine-fantasy-warns-parents-beware-children-internet.html
Attractive, middle class, white girl dies, parents blame Internet. Oh world wide web is there anything we can't attribute to your inherent evil?
Apparently the pretty ballet dancing train hugger enjoyed going to websites centred around self harming and suicide. Don't the people who run these sites know the vulnerability of the vulnerable teenagers who visit these sites because of their vulnerability and their predisposition towards vulnerable behaviour?
When will the people who own and run the Internet do something about it?
Would you want your daughters visiting websites like that?
Quote: sootyj @ 23rd January 2014, 12:32 AM GMTI'm now playing the game of guessing who RCP is trying to start an argument with.
The human race in general?
So Tursiop who are you planning on groping this week
Quote: Tursiops @ 23rd January 2014, 10:16 AM GMTThe human race in general?
As Churchill said, Makes you proud to be British
Quote: Lazzard @ 23rd January 2014, 9:50 AM GMTWould you want your daughters visiting websites like that?
It's not quite clear whether such websites exacerbate or ameliorate an unhealthy mental state. The article talks about other users encouraging her to self-harm, and it's easy to view that as a bad road which led to her taking her own life, but what was the context? For all we know, they suggested it as a 'lessser of two evils' alternative to suicide.
Quote: Nogget @ 23rd January 2014, 11:36 AM GMTIt's not quite clear whether such websites exacerbate or ameliorate an unhealthy mental state. The article talks about other users encouraging her to self-harm, and it's easy to view that as a bad road which led to her taking her own life, but what was the context? For all we know, they suggested it as a 'lessser of two evils' alternative to suicide.
Understood.
My point was more in response to RP's overall point that people should stop blaming the internet for the world's ills.
The thing is, sites like this normalise the aberrant - people on the fringes, people who may have only slightly entertained 'dark thought' are allowed to communicate with people who are up to their necks in them.
It the same with porn.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to have a conversation with my ten year old before too long, as the chances are he'll be exposed to it in the next year or so.
Ten years old!
That was just not an issue for my parents - neither was the concept of suicide websites.
Our generation of parent's are the first who've had to deal with the internet - it's a steep learning curve, and I think we're entitled to feel concerned.
Governments and citizens alike are flailing around trying to come to terms with this entirely new landscape.
Quote: Lazzard @ 23rd January 2014, 12:35 PM GMTThe thing is, sites like this normalise the aberrant - people on the fringes, people who may have only slightly entertained 'dark thought' are allowed to communicate with people who are up to their necks in them.
It's certainly a big concern for me, since I have secondary-school girls, but while clearly we wouldn't want a disturbed teenager to think self-harm was normal, it might not be a bad thing for them to be talking to others with similar problems, if they feel they can't talk to anyone else; after all, in so many other areas of life, talking about bad things is, on balance, better than keeping quiet about them.
What would be most informative would be to hear what self-harmers themselves feel about these websites.
Quote: Kenneth @ 23rd January 2014, 3:39 AM GMTThat is the kind of completely f**ked in the head logic used by Muslim men to justify their repression of women.
It does sound alarmingly like the justification used by rapists:
Ooh a Muslim and a rapist in the same reply, what's the matter Kenneth, Satan and Hitler got the day off?
To repeat, all I'm asking is that 'every now and then' - not all the time, not half the time, just occasionally, that people dress appropriately.
I know in Kenneth world it's okay to wear your best tits out mini dress to a funeral, a Man Utd shirt to your own wedding and for male primary school teachers to parade around in front of 8 year olds in just a pair of Speedos. But not everyone has your no standards approach.
Now here's the thing, like it or not, we have certain rules when it comes to clothing, it's the price we pay for buying into the whole concept of fashion. If we were truly allowed to wear whatever we wanted, then we'd wander around naked in the summer and wear onesies and duvets to work in the winter.
We all adopt a certain dress code to show both respect for ourselves and to respect the feelings of others. Hence I won't show up to an Anorexics Anonymous meeting wearing a 'No Fat Chicks' t-shirt. So yeah, if the way someone dresses makes me feel uncomfortable - such as a Nazi uniform - then there is nothing wrong with me voicing this discomfort.
Funny you should bring up repression, nothing like repressing someone's opinion like accusing them of being a rapist. (Really Ken? The rapist card? I'm most disappointed)