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Then Sherlock drew a moustache on his face and washed it off

All they needed was for Watson's girlfriend to shave her minge and it would have been a rule of 3 gag

Quote: Steve Sunshine @ 3rd January 2014, 9:32 PM GMT

I gave up a bit after the first series
One great episode one awful episode & a meh.

I will try to catch up with it one day

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most sensible point

I wish I didn't watch it, but I'm kinda hooked on any kind of BBC scifi

Like someone who visits every Greggs in the land, because Jesus appeared in a steak bake.

Quote: Matthew Stott @ 3rd January 2014, 9:29 PM GMT

Probably not, we'd better do a quick check with the other nine million people who watched it to make sure; this may take a while.

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I watched it.

Quote: Marc P @ 3rd January 2014, 11:00 PM GMT

I watched it.

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This is going to be a long winded process as it is, if you could please keep your response to either 'Bored' or 'Not Bored'. Thanks.

Quote: Marc P @ 3rd January 2014, 11:00 PM GMT

I watched it.

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What the mini series with Tim Curry as a scary clown

Stick to the subject man

Quote: Matthew Stott @ 3rd January 2014, 11:16 PM GMT

This is going to be a long winded process as it is, if you could please keep your response to either 'Bored' or 'Not Bored'. Thanks.

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Does that chat up line ever work

Quote: Matthew Stott @ 3rd January 2014, 11:16 PM GMT

This is going to be a long winded process as it is, if you could please keep your response to either 'Bored' or 'Not Bored'. Thanks.

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Wasn't bored throughout Just disappointed , what would you have done to make it better?

Quote: Marc P @ 3rd January 2014, 11:27 PM GMT

Wasn't bored throughout Just disappointed , what would you have done to make it better?

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I would have put a mystery more front and centre throughout and weaved the Sherlock return stuff through it, rather than having that more or less dominate the first 45 minutes, for one thing. The mystery was too secondary.

Quote: Marc P @ 3rd January 2014, 11:27 PM GMT

what would you have done to make it better?

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I'm glad you asked -

Wrapped up Sherlock's return in the first ten minutes including the bona fide explanation for the roof jump.

Word of Sherlock's return would reverberate around London and villains with old scores to settle would emerge.

Suddenly, Sherlock's life is in danger and the reluctant Watson, who had settled into a comfortable normal life, would be forced to quit the mundane existence and save the skin of his old chum. Resolving his feelings in the process and once again acquiring the taste for the life of a consulting detective.

Bish, bash, bosh - 5 gay jokes later, show ends, everyone's happy.

Quote: Matthew Stott @ 3rd January 2014, 11:40 PM GMT

I would have put a mystery more front and centre throughout and weaved the Sherlock return stuff through it, rather than having that more or less dominate the first 45 minutes, for one thing. The mystery was too secondary.

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It was more than forty five minutes and embarrassingly self reverentially indulgent. Two years later and wrap it in a minute or two and crack on with the narrative... You know.. If you can tell a story. I agree with you too secondary and nicked apparently.

I had forgotten what a load of old toss this show is.

Must watch V for Vendetta .... I can get annoyed about the wrong tube stations, wrong type of 'cars' and continuity errors in that as well.

Sherlock aspires to be as bad as that abomination.

Has any rubbish film inspired an equally inspired such an equally rubbish protest movement.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 3rd January 2014, 11:43 PM GMT

Wrapped up Sherlock's return in the first ten minutes including the bona fide explanation for the roof jump.

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This goes to the heart of the problem.

The very knowing way they celebrated their own success in creating fan-boy chit-chat was self-indulgent and self-congratulatory in the extreme.
They effectively broke the fourth wall - but not for dramatic purposes- but rather to give themselves a pat on the back.
That was pretty well unforgivable.

I will stick with it because there are aspects of it ( performances, in the main) that I really enjoy - but will be gritting my teeth as we are treated to the remainder of the 19 explanations we have been promised.

Quote: Lazzard @ 4th January 2014, 11:28 AM GMT

They effectively broke the fourth wall - but not for dramatic purposes- but rather to give themselves a pat on the back.

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Yeppity doodle. I was thinking the other day, what if someone had never seen Sherlock before and The Empty Hearse was their first taste?

As a stand alone episode, it failed completely on so many levels.

Quote: Renegade Carpark @ 4th January 2014, 3:15 PM GMT

As a stand alone episode, it failed completely on so many levels.

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Worse - it referred to a world outside the frame of the 'reality' drama ie the audience reaction to a piece of fiction.

I agree with your criticism generally Lazzard -- specifically the bit about the self-indulgent breaking of the fourth wall -- but probably not to the same extent.

The Reichenbach Fall episode had built up Sherlock into this tabloid celebrity character, remember, and there was a huge question mark (some kind of inquest?) hanging over his talents, so it doesn't seem entirely unreasonable that conspiracy theories would follow.