Quote: sootyj @ 18th December 2013, 12:46 AM GMTyou'd never make it as an ATOS assessor
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Quote: sootyj @ 18th December 2013, 12:42 AM GMTI don't think you're convincing yourself.
Confident transvestite or transgendered chaps from quite an early age will choose to wear polka dot dresses.
No one outside of the Muslim and some very odd Jewish enclaves wear Burqa/niqarbs. And unlike polka dotted dresses its an item of clothing designed to shame and conceal, and to a lesser extent show religious unity.
Perhaps they should be ok for schools, what do I know. I'm merely curious you'd permit the outfit with out the education around the meaning.
Ok, well when I go swimming I wear a 'modest' swimsuit that I bought from a website marketing specifically to hijabi women. I'm not saying the wearing of burkas should be encourages, I'm saying it shouldn't be banned. You seem to have missed the fact that I have not actually said that anything should be banned. The only thing I've actually said should be done is more education and less RE and nativity plays.
Quote: sootyj @ 18th December 2013, 12:48 AM GMTName the other 4 and more importantly, just one why you'd wear one.
Quote: Harridan @ 30th August 2012, 10:15 PM BSTugh. I caught sight of myself in a shop window and got a shock today - it seems to be a haircut that makes me look like a Beatle if it's been breezy. A well, hair grows. But not quickly enough.
Quote: Harridan @ 18th December 2013, 12:48 AM GMTOk, well when I go swimming I wear a 'modest' swimsuit that I bought from a website marketing specifically to hijabi women. I'm not saying the wearing of burkas should be encourages, I'm saying it shouldn't be banned. You seem to have missed the fact that I have not actually said that anything should be banned. The only thing I've actually said should be done is more education and less RE and nativity plays.
Thats a burqini to use the name of its inventor, it aint a burqa and it's worn by fairly brave Muslim women.
I think theyre marvelous allow women who want to swim or go on the beach, without being forced to show off flesh to do so.
A thoroughly commendable and modern invention. Invented I believe to allow Aussie Muslim women to be life guards.
And I think you started off rather strongly suggesting religion shouldn't be promoted in schools. And no nativity less than an hour of RE a week, there wouldn't be much left.
My old deputy head who was a right old Jesus shouter at church, just used to try and impress us lads with bad jokes.
Quote: Tursiops @ 18th December 2013, 12:51 AM GMT
cheeky
Yeah, religion shouldn't be promoted in schools. That does not mean I think that people should not be able to mention religion, which is what you seem to have assumed I meant.
Back on topic of this thread, this conversation has really pissed me off. Disingenuous and plain insulting. Good night.
I'll pray for you, but as an aetheist I guess that just means emailing Richard Dawkins.
Are you there Richard Dawkins this is Sootyj.
Though I suppose I'm far more into learning about faiths, cultures and religions and far less into encouraging their practise.
Off to bed now.
God knows (oops!) how many posts I'll have to read through tomorrow !
Quote: Harridan @ 18th December 2013, 12:59 AM GMTBack on topic of this thread, this conversation has really pissed me off. Disingenuous and plain insulting. Good night.
I need to turn in as well. I thought the discussion has been playful and good natured, but then in an argument about religion I guess it is difficult to wind up an agnostic.
Good night and may your God go with you, or not, as you may choose.
Quote: Oldrocker @ 18th December 2013, 12:44 AM GMTI think I asked if there was any religion in the world that didn't have life after death at it's core.
I think the most primitive religions are based on fear of the weather and of natural calamities. You have to appease the gods or storms or famine etc will occur. These religions don't need an afterlife belief.
Later religions seem to be based on fear of death and desire for life after death.
Sandwich shops that think 2 pieces of bacon in a huge teacake is good enough. More bare bread than bacon.... and they think I might go there again.
Isn't a tea cake a glazed roll with currants? Do you usually have them with bacon?
You're not thinking of a bread cake are you, which is more of a large roll?
Nah, that's a currant teacake (and it's not glazed) A teacake in Yorkshire is probably what you call a breadcake.
A roll ooop north is the small round things you typically have with soup. And.. a flat cake is an even bigger teacake. Got it now 
Some cafes sell a full English breakfast in a flatcake - and I mean the full mashings in there. I can't manage one, they pog me.
http://newoldage.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/30/when-doctors-face-death/?_r=0
This is probably one of the best bits of writing I think I ever read. And where as it isn't about faith or the lack of it, it kinda puts me in the position of being what I'd consider agnostic or uncomfortably aetheist.
That being able to explain the how of life, without the why is a little hollow. I kinda wish we looking to people like Nietzsche or Plato for these answers and not so much smug rejectionists.
Quote: Stephen Goodlad @ 18th December 2013, 10:11 AM GMTNah, that's a currant teacake (and it's not glazed) A teacake in Yorkshire is probably what you call a breadcake.
A roll ooop north is the small round things you typically have with soup. And.. a flat cake is an even bigger teacake. Got it now
Ah yes bread cake is very much a Hull thing, I thought though tea cakes, were tea cakes and the glaze was more of a light sugar thing.
Shows what I know.
Quote: sootyj @ 18th December 2013, 10:13 AM GMTThat being able to explain the how of life, without the why is a little hollow.
Why should there be a reason?
Because it's what's been a quest behind so much of life, art whatever
Monty python made a film about it