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Quote: Harridan @ 17th December 2013, 11:50 PM GMT

How about some normal education? How about more science and less RE and more history and fewer nativity plays?

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Putting aside faith schools - and I agree that their proliferation is one of the most toxic aspects of Blair's disastrous legacy - a LOT more science is taught than RE, and such RE teaching as there is non-denominational.

As for nativity plays, they have about as much religious significance as Frosty the Snowman. If you want to ban those in State schools you might as well go around telling children that there is no such thing as Santa Claus.

I used to like RE at school, it was interesting.

Hare Krishnas are no sweethearts, they're more backwards than most, particularly with regards to women. And RE is 'comparative cultural studies' in approximately 0% of schools. Almost always it is a Christianity lesson, particularly as the school have to choose a religion to teach for GCSE, and I don't imagine there are many that opt for Jainism.

All I say is keep it out of school in any form and just create an ethos of people respecting each other as human beings.

Quote: Steve Sunshine @ 18th December 2013, 12:07 AM GMT

I used to like RE at school, it was interesting.

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We had re, it always seemed to be about something else.

Boodah

Quote: keewik @ 18th December 2013, 12:05 AM GMT

When I was in school in the dark ages, there were prayers every morning and a church service once a week. We were never taught comparative religion. But it was more that the ethos was everywhere - always assumed you were Christian and abided by the principles.

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Same here, at primary school level, but since I had none of that at home it made zero impact on me.

At secondary school it was kind of a game to see how long the new RE teacher would last before having a nervous breakdown. Generally they would fare rather better than music teachers; their faith obviously served as a crutch.

Quote: Tursiops @ 18th December 2013, 12:06 AM GMT

Putting aside faith schools - and I agree that their proliferation is one of the most toxic aspects of Blair's disastrous legacy - a LOT more science is taught than RE, and such RE teaching as there is non-denominational.

As for nativity plays, they have about as much religious significance as Frosty the Snowman. If you want to ban those in State schools you might as well go around telling children that there is no such thing as Santa Claus.

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Yeah, making children perform in and watch the story of how baby Jesus was born every year won't affect them at all...

Evolution is barely taught at GCSE level.

I'm totally fine with doing away with Santa and the tooth fairy. It teaches children to believe nonsense just because your parents say it's true.

'Crutch' is the word. It's bloody hard being a non-believer.

I Always went to Church Schools, but I Kind of got the idea that C of E meant you lived in England & your school might be Churchy but you don't really have to bother. Not like them crazy Catholics.

Quote: Harridan @ 18th December 2013, 12:07 AM GMT

Hare Krishnas are no sweethearts, they're more backwards than most, particularly with regards to women. And RE is 'comparative cultural studies' in approximately 0% of schools. Almost always it is a Christianity lesson, particularly as the school have to choose a religion to teach for GCSE, and I don't imagine there are many that opt for Jainism.

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Really I grew up in a small conservative sea side town and I didn't learn really anything about Christianity till I did A levels.

nb you kinda dodged the question, no more burqas or turbans

Quote: Harridan @ 18th December 2013, 12:07 AM GMT

And RE is 'comparative cultural studies' in approximately 0% of schools. Almost always it is a Christianity lesson, particularly as the school have to choose a religion to teach for GCSE, and I don't imagine there are many that opt for Jainism.

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Outside of a faith school does anyone actually take RE to GCSE level? That sure as hell never happened at my old comprehensive.

EDIT: actually that might not be true; Cliff Richard went to my old school and he ended up living with his old RE teacher.

Quote: Harridan @ 18th December 2013, 12:11 AM GMT

Yeah, making children perform in and watch the story of how baby Jesus was born every year won't affect them at all...

Evolution is barely taught at GCSE level.

I'm totally fine with doing away with Santa and the tooth fairy. It teaches children to believe nonsense just because your parents say it's true.

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I never went to a nativity, but I did star, write and direct Purim Shpiels for most of my childhood.

Which is why I'm a bacon eating, Shul dodging peacenik, probably kicked off my interest in comedy though.

Jeez Harridan did a bishop bite you a child or something.

Quote: Tursiops @ 18th December 2013, 12:14 AM GMT

Outside of a faith school does anyone actually take RE to GCSE level? That sure as hell never happened at my old comprehensive.

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Ha! Things are different these days.

Quote: sootyj @ 18th December 2013, 12:13 AM GMT

Really I grew up in a small conservative sea side town and I didn't learn really anything about Christianity till I did A levels.

nb you kinda dodged the question, no more burqas or turbans

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Sorry, missed the question. I don't think that hijabs or turbans should be banned, I think you should be able to cover your hair if you want to. I think that niqabs or other religious face coverings are also fine, but I think that people's right to wear them is less important than the requirement to ensure somebody's identity in certain situations.