Not intending to get involved.
I just think life would be more believable if all middle class people were like Pete Hitchens.
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Quote: Marc P @ 25th November 2013, 9:38 PM GMTSorry just asking if you thought the pejorative meaning was legitimate?
Whilst I might not use 'Middle Class' as an insult, I recognise that others do. The people who describe Richard Curtis' work as 'middle class' (as used earlier in this thread) tend to be the sort of people who don't like him or his work and certainly don't mean it as a compliment.
Quote: Horseradish @ 25th November 2013, 9:54 PM GMTNot intending to get involved.
I just think life would be more believable if all middle class people were like Pete Hitchens.
Good grief! one is literally more than enough. Literally. I actually carry a shovel around at all times just in case I meet him with his face on fire...
Quote: Alfred J Kipper @ 25th November 2013, 1:23 PM GMTchocolate box commercialism, a thing the twee British Victorians invented.
Expressing their innate sentimentalism between sending children up chimneys and down mines, putting old people in workhouses and hanging people in public.
I always thought of Curtis' films as marketing Britishness to Americans. They seemed to be based on a stereotypical view of England that only Americans believe (at least the Europeans have the wherewithall to see us all as hooligans! 
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As for the class thing...Curtis is Upper Middle. Upper class means artistocratic. Unless he is of blue blood and I just don't know about it...
Quote: sglen @ 2nd December 2013, 3:38 PM GMTI always thought of Curtis' films as marketing Britishness to Americans. They seemed to be based on a stereotypical view of England that only Americans believe (at least the Europeans have the wherewithall to see us all as hooligans!
As for the class thing...Curtis is Upper Middle. Upper class means artistocratic. Unless he is of blue blood and I just don't know about it...
Define your sources.
Quote: Marc P @ 2nd December 2013, 9:57 PM GMTDefine your sources.
I thought that was common knowledge. Unless the class system stops just before the aristocrats and they're just called aristocrats? I think of David Cameron types as being Upper Middle rather than Upper, whereas many of the peers are Upper.
I guess it's debatable.
Nah upper classes in this here century don't have to be aristos. I think that stopped when King Charles one had his napper chopped off .
Burke's Peerage still refusing to take your phonecalls?
Is that really one word?
Not according to the autocorrect on here, but being chippy working class I refuse to be dictated to.
Does anyone who went to Oxford/Cambridge ever not succeed?
Is there a secret conveyor belt straight from graduation right to the BBC?