Sorry but I agree with Angiebaby.
If you don't think any party will make a difference then it doesn't matter if only one person votes them in or everyone. Sootyj it's not really fair to call people idiots for having an opinion that you don't like.
Robert Webb versus Russell Brand Page 3
Quote: AngieBaby @ October 31 2013, 9:22 PM GMTAaron I think its reference to Tory Mps who enjoy auto-erotic asphyxiation.
Jesus. Topical, then.
Quote: Horseradish @ October 31 2013, 9:53 PM GMTI let others think exclusively about careers. The ones who don't "do" dialogue.
That's very noble of you. Thanks for permission.
Quote: AngieBaby @ October 31 2013, 9:22 PM GMTI agree with Russell Brand, why vote when you know it's not going to make any difference?
Except it does make a difference. That's just a lazy line trotted out by the dim-witted and the politically disengaged when they wish to justify such and appear informed.
It's certainly true to say that there are many gaps in the political spectrum that are not represented by the three main parties, and some not represented by any party at all, but the cry of 'they're all the same' is codswallop.
Quote: Aaron @ October 31 2013, 9:58 PM GMTJesus. Topical, then.
Shush lads. Stop shouting.
There's quite a lot of people in the auditorium.
Quote: Hannah G @ October 31 2013, 9:56 PM GMTSootyj it's not really fair to call people idiots for having an opinion that you don't like.
Politics isn't about being fair just at the moment.... or ever!! 
I haven't been this site for months and have been called a 'f**king idiot' and 'dim-witted', nice welcome back guys 
Quote: Horseradish @ October 31 2013, 9:37 PM GMTYes - quite right.
It psychedelically blurs Tory MPs who enjoy auto-erotic asphyxiation and the unfortunate Coalition with the Liberal Democrats whose colour is orange. It does much the same with the cross placed in the box and an early system of film classification. Of course, it all hinges on the word "explicitly" which initially suggested a pornography-in-a-polling-booth gag. That, though, was rejected as it was all done in the 1990s - probably in Surbiton.'If he was intending to vote Labour, I wouldn't have had a 1960s theme for obvious reasons. As it is, I admit to being somewhat gobsmacked though not in a Milliganesque sort of way. The poor chap!
Are you sure you're not actually Russell Brand yourself?
Quote: Aaron @ October 31 2013, 9:58 PM GMTJesus. Topical, then.
Too true cliche, I mean when was the last really juicy Westminster sex scandal.
And independent political parties can have a real voice without ever winning, either by joining up or by simply draining the incumbents votes.
It's a salutory lesson that by the worlds most effective, grass roots human rights organisation is the NRA.
Because they get how politics work.
Quote: AngieBaby @ October 31 2013, 10:03 PM GMTI haven't been this site for months and have been called a 'f**king idiot' and 'dim-witted', nice welcome back guys
I'm on your side Angiebaby 
Quote: Aaron @ October 31 2013, 10:01 PM GMTExcept it does make a difference. That's just a lazy line trotted out by the dim-witted and the politically disengaged when they wish to justify such and appear informed.
It's certainly true to say that there are many gaps in the political spectrum that are not represented by the three main parties, and some not represented by any party at all, but the cry of 'they're all the same' is codswallop.
Again totally agreeing with Aaron.
Politics are important and you can influence them.
Quote: sootyj @ October 31 2013, 9:51 PM GMTWell if you vote Labor instead of Conservative they're cuts maybe 5 percent less, they may choose a less private orientated needs assessment company than ATOS.
Yawn. Grow up sooty, read something other than the Socialist Worker. It was the Labour Government who appointed ATOS in the first place. The current Government simply continued using them for additional forms of assessment.
Quote: sootyj @ October 31 2013, 9:51 PM GMTOr you could join a party and lobby from within and maybe part of something exciting, like repealing section 28 or free school dinners or university for all who are bright enough, or just votes for everyone of an age.
All these things happened because passionate, hardworking people strove and fought for them.
This, however, is quite to the point. As mentioned previously, people (largely) aren't served because they don't vote, so politicans feel no need to appeal to and appease them, so they become more disengaged and don't vote... Disengagement is the problem, not the solution.
Quote: AngieBaby @ October 31 2013, 10:03 PM GMTI haven't been this site for months and have been called a 'f**king idiot' and 'dim-witted', nice welcome back guys
You may not be f**kwitted or dimwitted, you're just espousing views that could be interpreted that way.
There is a difference.
The alternative would be for me to assume not voting is intelligent, because you're intelligent.
You can see the logical conundrum.
Quote: sootyj @ October 31 2013, 10:03 PM GMTToo true cliche, I mean when was the last really juicy Westminster sex scandal.
Prescott, maybe? Although 'juicy' is ... *retches forevermore*