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The National Front were anti-semitic. The BNP are more anti-Muslim. The only observation a logical person can make is that the far right has to be anti something. I never understood how anti-semitism squared with anti-German sentiment which I would also condemn if it wasn't done in a knowingly ironic way. So if anti-semites congregate around the Dambusters Theme when England play Germany, it is a problem whereas that theme in football isn't so generally. Clearly they are ignorant, stupid or seeking conflict - or else all three.

The liberal left is now more anti-semitic than the far right, whatever it says against discrimination. At Womad, where generally everyone supports One Worldism, I was appalled when a Jewish singer was booed and three quarters of the crowd walked out. Instinctively I stayed for what was a great concert and I may have been one of the few non-Jewish people remaining. His sin was not in being Jewish but Israeli and the gig was delayed until he had tried to explain his feelings about his Government. I wouldn't want to be identified as the same as our Government and frankly I was disgusted by the reception he was given.

It doesn't make sense to me why this matter has blown up now. Is this section of Spurs supporters reacting to increasing abuse from opponents or choosing to encourage it? That distinction matters. Many of them will not be Jewish. As an Arsenal supporter, I have always felt deeply uncomfortable about any anti-Jewish comments in connection with Spurs, not least because I know that there is a contingent of Jewish Gunners.

At the same time, football lives in its own world. They do things differently there. I have always found references to supporters of East Anglian teams as "tractor drivers" very funny. We need to be sure that there isn't overreaction. I doubt that either Cameron or Baddiel should have got themselves involved. The club is addressing the matter with a view to making a decision in due course. That has to be the best way.

Quote: Tursiops @ September 18 2013, 10:20 PM BST

It's the Laughing out loud that makes that so chilling...

Laughing out loud Laughing out loud Laughing out loud

Quote: Horseradish @ September 18 2013, 10:22 PM BST

It is not a section of Spurs fans; it is the whole crowd. doesn't make sense to me why this matter has blown up now. Is this section of Spurs supporters reacting to increasing abuse from opponents or choosing to encourage it?

It is not a section of Spurs fans; it is the whole crowd. That it has blown up as an issue now is not because of any change in behaviour at games. Baddiel has been on a personal crusade for years, and a while back some chap from the Society of Black Lawyers weighed in claiming that the chants by Spurs fans were breaking the law; at the time the Metropolitan Police made exactly the same distinction as has been made by the Prime-minister, and the whole thing died down. But now several months later for some unknown reason the FA has decided to lumber into action.

A view from a Jewish Spurs fan as to what it is all about: http://threeandin.com/?p=27413

Quote: Tursiops @ September 18 2013, 10:37 PM BST

It is not a section of Spurs fans; it is the whole crowd. That it has blown up as an issue now is not because of any change in behaviour at games. Baddiel has been on a personal crusade for years, and a while back some chap from the Society of Black Lawyers weighed in claiming that the chants by Spurs fans were breaking the law; at the time the Metropolitan Police made exactly the same distinction as has been made by the Prime-minister, and the whole thing died down. But now several months later for some unknown reason the FA has decided to lumber into action.

A view from a Jewish Spurs fan as to what it is all about: http://threeandin.com/?p=27413

Well, God forbid, I am tentatively inclined to the Cameron view, ie it is an identification with aspects of their heritage rather than them being critical of the opposing team. But it is interesting that West Ham and Chelsea are seen as the main perpetrators. Certainly I haven't heard very much abuse of that kind at Arsenal. I don't want to knock Chelsea or West Ham unduly but Nick Hornby springs to mind in this matter.

He points out in "Fever Pitch" that white suburban Londoners often feel deep down that they have missed out on having any cultural roots and hence can easily relate to other cultures when they are accessible. Arsenal has always had a close identification with the Irish and the Scottish. It was also a leader of black culture in football and now it is European culture. I love all those things. Similarly, Tottenham has its Jewish heritage. But with the best will in the world, Chelsea has the Kings Road and that's about it. It is a bit flash and the gaps in its years of success didn't help it to deepen its identity. It is not as if it has now turned Russian. I think the Hammers' story is similar but also different. They are still inner working class London to a degree. They did have a culture but that has been destroyed by big money. On that, I really sympathise.

I'd like to see Marc P, surely one of Cromer's wealthiest wordsmiths, match the largesse of his old mucker.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24141953

http://www.inquisitr.com/957606/public-masturbation-is-now-legal-in-sweden/

ERM yay sweden

Quote: keewik @ September 18 2013, 9:56 PM BST

Is there a lot of anti-Semitism in England? I'm not aware of it here (no, Catholics and Protestants are too busy hacking each other to death! Laughing out loud ) besides we can't pronounce it so we pick on those cheeky Hindu gobshites

Och aye the Jews!

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-09-18/the-bbc-newsreader-who-mistook-his-ipad-for-a-packet-of-photocopier-paper

BBC News reader mistakes a packet of photocopier paper for his iPad.

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Quote: Raymond Terrific @ September 19 2013, 7:28 PM BST

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-09-18/the-bbc-newsreader-who-mistook-his-ipad-for-a-packet-of-photocopier-paper

BBC News reader mistakes a packet of photocopier paper for his iPad.

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Strange image on the screen in the background as well.

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2013/09/19/grandmother-32-given-weekend-curfew-after-starving-dog/

:O

I'm not reading that but she sounds like a right bitch.

Quote: Tursiops @ September 18 2013, 10:37 PM BST

It is not a section of Spurs fans; it is the whole crowd. That it has blown up as an issue now is not because of any change in behaviour at games. Baddiel has been on a personal crusade for years, and a while back some chap from the Society of Black Lawyers weighed in claiming that the chants by Spurs fans were breaking the law; at the time the Metropolitan Police made exactly the same distinction as has been made by the Prime-minister, and the whole thing died down. But now several months later for some unknown reason the FA has decided to lumber into action.

A view from a Jewish Spurs fan as to what it is all about: http://threeandin.com/?p=27413

It probably wasn't the start but in Til Death us do part Alf Garnett used to refer to Tottenham as the Yids. Funny really considering actor Warren Mitchell was Jewish. And his son in law always took the mick out of his big nose calling him Jewish.

Quote: zooo @ September 19 2013, 9:33 PM BST

I'm not reading that but she sounds like a right bitch.

No mention of the dog dying but it's worth reading as an example of broken Britain.

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2013/09/19/foreman-who-filmed-rape-spared-prison/

WTF!!!!

Bastard should have gone down for not stopping him !

We'll that is f**king horrible.

:) Bloody Clown in Northhampton , there are loads round here?-- Crusty' was in 'Spoons' last bloody night!!

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