Quote: Jennie @ September 13 2013, 2:51 PM BST
Sorry. It's a very bad habit of mine!
I encourage you!
I read the news today oh boy! Page 1,310
Quote: Natalie Of Wicks @ September 13 2013, 2:52 PM BSTI encourage you!
Excellent! Just tell me when and where.
Reminds me of my lovely granny, who I overheard discussing my career choice with my mother:
"I am surprised Jennie has chosen to be a lawyer (instead of a housewife, presumably).
But then, she is a bit of an interfering so and so. At least there she can interfere with other people's business in peace."
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/13/blurred-lines-banned-edinburgh-university
//www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/13/robin-thicke-blurred-lines-banned-edinburgh-uni_n_3918446.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
So 2 articles on the same subject again, reitterating that the song was banned. Because of a policy against lad culture.
Sorry if I seem to be flogging a dead horse, but look my memory and attention to detail is dreadful. So on this kind of thing if I'm not wrong it matters to me, perhaps more than it should.
Jennie, just assume that wherever I'm about to spout a half-formed opinion that you can do it with more class and knowledge than I, and just bloody go for it. I then don't have to post and I'll just read it and nod along and that way I don't have to get sad that people aren't agreeing with me.
Quote: Jennie @ September 13 2013, 2:51 PM BSTWhich is exactly MY point - it's not about money.
Bank A and B charge me exactly the same for overdoing it on the credit card. There is no financial consideration at all in my change of banks.
It is because by being a member of a bank I feel that I am endorsing certain things by proxy. Which I don't wish to do.
It was suggesting that it was about money by the institutions not the clients.
Edinburgh university are not running a 5% off your fees, if you don't mind not listening to Robin Thicke campaign.
Quote: sootyj @ September 13 2013, 2:56 PM BSThttp://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/13/blurred-lines-banned-edinburgh-university
//www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/13/robin-thicke-blurred-lines-banned-edinburgh-uni_n_3918446.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
So 2 articles on the same subject again, reitterating that the song was banned. Because of a policy against lad culture.
Sorry if I seem to be flogging a dead horse, but look my memory and attention to detail is dreadful. So on this kind of thing if I'm not wrong it matters to me, perhaps more than it should.
I don't really know what you're arguing against here. We all read and acknowledged that it was banned by the SU from all SU based events. What are you arguing with?
Quote: Natalie Of Wicks @ September 13 2013, 2:11 PM BSTAlso I believe you've missed the point of the ban- they're not stopping students from listening to it on Uni property, The studient union (seperate from the uni) have deemed that it is not be be played at any events in SU properties.
Quote: Natalie Of Wicks @ September 13 2013, 2:50 PM BSTBloody norah, it was just a passing theory. It's you who is making a big deal of it!
Gah because the diference between an economic boycott and censorship of offensive or subversive ideas, is vast beyond belief.
It's not apples and oranges, it's oranges and deathstars.
Quote: sootyj @ September 13 2013, 2:56 PM BSThttp://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/13/blurred-lines-banned-edinburgh-university
//www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/13/robin-thicke-blurred-lines-banned-edinburgh-uni_n_3918446.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
So 2 articles on the same subject again, reitterating that the song was banned. Because of a policy against lad culture.
Sorry if I seem to be flogging a dead horse, but look my memory and attention to detail is dreadful. So on this kind of thing if I'm not wrong it matters to me, perhaps more than it should.
I'm not disagreeing with you though. The song 'promotes an unhealthy attitude towards sex and consent'. So the SU don't want to be associated with it, because they believe that playing it is tantamount to an endorsement of the sentiments within it. I really don't think we disagree on this Soots.
Quote: sootyj @ September 13 2013, 3:00 PM BSTGah because the diference between an economic boycott and censorship of offensive or subversive ideas, is vast beyond belief.
It's not apples and oranges, it's oranges and deathstars.
This is a boycott (moral, not economic) but it is not censorship. Censorship would involve an unfortunate accident involving Mr Thicke, a small gazelle taped to his privates and a hungry lion. Then a law banning music sung by genital-less people.
In other news, Colin Firth is going to play Paddington Bear and there are new leads in the Nikki Allen murder investigation.
News which I highly endorse.
Quote: Jennie @ September 13 2013, 3:05 PM BSTColin Firth is going to play Paddington Bear
Quote: Jennie @ September 13 2013, 3:02 PM BSTI'm not disagreeing with you though. The song 'promotes an unhealthy attitude towards sex and consent'. So the SU don't want to be associated with it, because they believe that playing it is tantamount to an endorsement of the sentiments within it. I really don't think we disagree on this Soots.
THIS.
I never claimed that they even WERE boycotting him financially. I threw in a supposition that this MIGHT have something to do with the justification of the ban. I might be being incredibly naive, but I don't really see what's in there to get so frustrated about.
Quote: Jennie @ September 13 2013, 3:05 PM BSTIn other news, Colin Firth is going to play Paddington Bear
I've never been a fan of either, really. He does a good Darcy, like.
Which is exactly what I've been saying, not sure I've been singing in the same choir as everyone else....
I think the broader question of EUSA's anti laddism policy is open, which I think is far more interesting.
I'm guessing sending guy out to the workplace with a more nuanced and perhaps more painful understanding of good behaviour. May actually not be such a bad thing.
You know, Colin even looks a bit like Paddington.
I was re-watching my Paddington Bear tapes the other weekend. (Moved to my flat after my father dared to suggest that my parents no longer need children's video tapes purchased in the mid 80's. I suggested he may one day have grandchildren, to which he snorted. Rude.)
Anyway, I love Paddington. Still cracks me up when he decides to wallpaper his room and accidentally wallpapers over his door so he can't get out. Comedy gold.
Quote: Jennie @ September 13 2013, 3:05 PM BSTThis is a boycott (moral, not economic) but it is not censorship. Censorship would involve an unfortunate accident involving Mr Thicke, a small gazelle taped to his privates and a hungry lion. Then a law banning music sung by genital-less people.
Well it is censoring the tastes of the apparently large number of Thicke fans at EUSA. In the same way some US schools banned Anne Franke's diary or at least parts where she writes about sex.
They're not stopping Mr Thicke performing, they're restricting EUSA member's right to access his music whilst on campus.
I'm not sure what Mr Thickes gentialia has to do with this?
Quote: sootyj @ September 13 2013, 3:11 PM BSTThey're not stopping Mr Thicke performing, they're restricting EUSA member's right to access his music whilst on campus.
No they aren't. If you have his music on your private iPhone, you can listen to it on SU property. It just isn't played as part of public events.
It's like me going to a club and being gutted when they refuse to play S Club 7. Sure, I'm upset, but it isn't my decision to make. Just as they can't interfere when I dance around my flat to 'Reach' for four hours on a Sunday night. (Although the council's Noise Abatement Team is a different question).
Quote: sootyj @ September 13 2013, 3:11 PM BSTWell it is censoring the tastes of the apparently large number of Thicke fans at EUSA. In the same way some US schools banned Anne Franke's diary or at least parts where she writes about sex.
I think maybe the problem lies around how we define a student Union and whether you believe a union can be an institution in the same way a Government for example is. I see it as boycott, you see it as censorship. Despite what you said earlier there most certainly is grey area.
Quote: Natalie Of Wicks @ September 13 2013, 3:19 PM BSTI think maybe the problem lies around how we define a student Union and whether you believe a union is an institution in the same way a Government for example is. I see it as boycott, you see it as censorship. Despite what you said earlier there most certainly is grey area.