Quote: AndyGilder @ August 22 2013, 3:43 PM BSTDid someone say my middle names?
I thought that was 'The Yorkshire' for couldn't 
I read the news today oh boy! Page 1,274
Quote: Gordon Bennett @ August 22 2013, 2:32 PM BSTBradley Manning wants to be a woman now...strange story.
Good for him. Could be he's hoping to make the most of his next decade locked up with a bunch of guys. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a tranny or change your gender, but until the gender reassignment surgery is done, the media should refrain from misusing the words "she" and "her".
Specifically, The Independent, writing this:
Speaking to the US NBC News Today programme, the 25-year-old soldier, who was born male, made a public statement saying she wishes to live out the rest of her life as a woman.
Um, no; Bradley Manning is not yet a she, so don't call him a her. This is just common sense journalism. Suppose a convicted murderer announced that he wished to live the rest of his life as a female teaspoon, would the press start saying "she is now a spoon"? Just because someone wants to be something, that doesn't immediately make it a reality. Silly editors.
Quote: Kenneth @ August 22 2013, 4:03 PM BSTGood for him. Could be he's hoping to make the most of his next decade locked up with a bunch of guys. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a tranny or change your gender, but until the gender reassignment surgery is done, the media should refrain from misusing the words "she" and "her".
Disagree- it's not the surgery which is the defining point. I agree that from the moment a person decides to identify as a different gender that they don't automatically change. But the point they start living as their chosen gender identity, that's when it is correct and polite to identify a person as they wish to be identified. It would be incredibly cruel to keep refering to a pre-op trans person by their unwanted gender.
Quote: Natalie Of Wicks @ August 22 2013, 4:13 PM BSTDisagree- it's not the surgery which is the defining point. I agree that from the moment a person decides to identify as a different gender that they don't automatically change. But the point they start living as their chosen gender identity, that's when it is correct and polite to identify a person as they wish to be identified. It would be incredibly cruel to keep refering to a pre-op trans person by their unwanted gender.
I agree with Nat in that special case but I won't call the Backstreet Boys musicians only because they want us to.
Call me old school, but I prefer the media to make reports that are based on fact, rather than reports that pander to the sensitivities of people's feelings for the sake of being seen as being politically correct.
We should respect the fact that Japan still denies the extent of many of its war-time atrocities and mass rapes, and write about Japan's war years in a glowing manner because that's what Japan wants? No.
We should start calling a man a woman because he wants to be a woman? No. He's still a man.
Gender? We're just humans. Who cares if male or female?
Why go straight to an atrocity as a comparison? Wanting to get rid of your willy is hardly an atrocity.
As long as you have the choice...
Quote: Oldrocker @ July 30 2013, 8:37 PM BSThttp://poinsettcounty.kait8.com/news/news/240253-dog-eats-paralyzed-mans-testicle
Quote: zooo @ August 22 2013, 6:43 PM BST? Wanting to get rid of your willy is hardly an atrocity.
Willies are ugly. I know I would try to get rid of mine if I had one. (I don't, in case there is any confusion).
Indoor plumbing is the sophisticated choice.
Definitely. You don't want your precious bits and bobs thwanging around all over the place. Very badly designed.
Quote: zooo @ August 22 2013, 7:10 PM BSTthwanging
What an excellent word. I am making my closing speech to the jury tomorrow.
I will endeavour to get "thwanging" into it.
Haha. Good luck. Excellent new game of the week.
Quote: Jennie @ August 22 2013, 7:15 PM BSTWhat an excellent word. I am making my closing speech to the jury tomorrow.
I will endeavour to get "thwanging" into it.
As in Rumpo of the Bailey.
Slap 'em on the grummitts and screeve their cordwangles.
Quote: Horseradish @ August 22 2013, 7:39 PM BSTAs in Rumpo of the Bailey.
Slap 'em on the grummitts and screeve their cordwangles.
Yep.
We used to play this game in advocacy classes at law school. Person would be given piece of paper with a word/phrase on it just before they stood up. If you didn't get it in, you would be buying drinks for the rest of the class in the pub later.
I once managed to get "Muller Crunch Corner with vanilla and chocolate balls" into cross examination on a sex case. Still ranks as one of my greatest achievements.
Such jolly japes.
Quote: Jennie @ August 22 2013, 7:47 PM BSTYep.
We used to play this game in advocacy classes at law school. Person would be given piece of paper with a word/phrase on it just before they stood up. If you didn't get it in, you would be buying drinks for the rest of the class in the pub later.
I once managed to get "Muller Crunch Corner with vanilla and chocolate balls" into cross examination on a sex case. Still ranks as one of my greatest achievements.
Such jolly japes.
Norman Baker MP does it in Parliamentary speeches with titles of songs by the Smiths. He was originally in the record industry, not that you would think it from listening to his band.
On Muller, a question. When will courts get sponsorship? The Emirates Old Bailey etc. I think they should. It would provide funds to the system and could enable the reintroduction of legal aid.
Quote: Horseradish @ August 22 2013, 7:56 PM BST.
On Muller, a question. When will courts get sponsorship? The Emirates Old Bailey etc. I think they should. It would provide funds to the system and could enable the reintroduction of legal aid.
How I wish this was just a joke:
Unfortunately, we have a madman at the helm. A madman who doesn't understand that British justice cannot be bought and sold.